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[Aklyon]

Nuzlocke run?

What, and let all that time training/caring potentially going to waste?
Are you masochistic or something?

Personally I'd just call using EV-trained pokemon in nuzlocke stupid, not masochistic. If you're going to waste time catching pokemon you give up on after one unlucky fight, you might as well not go to the effort of training them aside from levelling too.

[Ghills]

I'm so excited about Pokemon Go! I really hope I get into the beta.

[Akura]

While I was riding in circles trying to get a Flabčbč to hatch(came out yellow, like the one I traded for. Darn it, wanted red), I opened the BuzzNav, which generates reports based on your(and other, physically nearby players) actions. It reported that I had rematched 8 times the Mysterious Sisters, Scall and Ion. I had been challenging them for a little extra money while grinding rematches against Lois and Hal(in the next room over) for a Destiny Knot. Bizarrely, the reporter thought I was in love with them.

Spoiler: Yeah... no. (click to show/hide)

Mysterious Sisters is a trainer duo consisting of a Hex Maniac and a Fairy Tale Girl. Hex Maniacs use Ghost-types and are generally creepy. Fairy Tale Girls use Fairy-types and are also quite creepy. Mysterious Sisters usually stack the creepiness. Scall and Ion are not only creepy sisters, they're extremely heavily implied to be incestuous.

EDIT: I've tried breeding Flabčbč twice now, both came out yellow, same as the mother. On the discussion page on Bulbapedia(had to look for that), it appears Flabčbč and Floette's color is determined where in Kalos you encounter it. I guess that means the form is inherited the parent? I guess it helps that they're female-only, since interbreeding would be a headache otherwise?

[Furtuka]

NEW SUN AND MOON TRAILER. Also some extra footage from Japan.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Solgaleo is Psychic/Steel, has ability Full Metal Body which that appears to prevent its stats from being lowered by opponents, and his signature move is Sunsteel Strike.
Lunala is Psychic/Ghost, with the ability Shadow Shield that appears to make it take less damage when at fullHP, and has the special attack Moongeist Beam

Professor is named Kukui with an assistant named Lily and the rival we've seen so far is named is named Hau.

Odd bracelet with a yellow/blue diamond can be seen on the art of the PC's wrists.

Also the next generation of Pokedex is powered and operated by BEING POSSESSED BY A ROTOM

[endlessblaze]

ohhhhhhhhhhh...... I was expecting a dark or fairy typing somewhere in there but that's pretty nice.

[Akura]

So basically, those abilities are just legendary copies of Clear Body and Multiscale, respectively?

[DeKaFu]

So basically, those abilities are just legendary copies of Clear Body and Multiscale, respectively?

Sounds like it.
I continue to be excited about moonbat, and am completely thrilled that there's going to be a bat that's not flying type. My all-bat team is looking up!

On a completely unrelated note, does anyone know anything much about the AI in secret base battles in ORAS? I'm thinking of making a specialized team for my secret base, but I don't really know how the AI prioritizes moves and such. I can't imagine it plays intelligently enough to pull off any fancy strategies, but I'm not entirely sure how to optimize the movesets and choose abilities in that case. I know it'll try to use super effective moves when possible, but what does it do with stat-raising or status-effect-inducing moves, for example?

Anyone have any thoughts/knowledge?

[umiman]

So basically, those abilities are just legendary copies of Clear Body and Multiscale, respectively?

Sounds like it.
I continue to be excited about moonbat, and am completely thrilled that there's going to be a bat that's not flying type. My all-bat team is looking up!

On a completely unrelated note, does anyone know anything much about the AI in secret base battles in ORAS? I'm thinking of making a specialized team for my secret base, but I don't really know how the AI prioritizes moves and such. I can't imagine it plays intelligently enough to pull off any fancy strategies, but I'm not entirely sure how to optimize the movesets and choose abilities in that case. I know it'll try to use super effective moves when possible, but what does it do with stat-raising or status-effect-inducing moves, for example?

Anyone have any thoughts/knowledge?

I was always under the impression that it just does moves at random... I'm sure that's not the case but that's what it feels like.

[Culise]

I'm pretty sure there are scaled AIs tied to the trainer classes (or lack therein): wild Pokemon are purely randomized, while additional selection criteria (for an obvious example, avoiding moves that would be ineffective or negated unless no other options exist) are added for more "intelligent" trainers, from the weakest Youngsters on up to the Elite 4 and Champion.  This is a bit obscured by the fact that trainer classes with weaker AIs also have weaker Pokemon with more restricted movesets; it's hard to tell how good an AI is when Youngster Joey is using a level 3 Rattata while Ace Trainers are running around with Level 50 Dragonairs.  I don't think you should count on very intelligent behaviour out of it, however, just as you note already.  It might be able to handle basic set-up, but it won't be able to anticipate move-sets (e.g., in deciding to set-up, switch, or go all-out), predict opponent switches, determine any need to switch its own Pokemon (outside of very elementary circumstances), utilize Choice items effectively for more than one opponent Pokemon, or the like.  I'm not even sure if the battle AI for Super Secret Bases will vary the order in which it sends out Pokemon, though at least it lacks the hard-coded order that weakens the AI used for the Elite 4 in ORAS and Champion in both Gen 6 games (basically, send the Mega out last). 

[Urist Imiknorris]

Psychic/Ghost? Holy ghost/dark weaknesses, Batmoon.

[umiman]

Psychic/Ghost? Holy ghost/dark weaknesses, Batmoon.

It's like this useless thing.

[Culise]

To be fair, half the problem with that and its released form is the low speed.  If Lunala really can outspeed Gengar and it's not just an artifact of anything of a huge laundry list of other possibilities (including but not limited to level differences, natures, EVs, IVs, simply not showing Gengar's move in the trailer, et cetera), then the only things it needs to fear speed-wise in most circumstances are Choice Scarfs, Sucker Punch, and Trick Room.  Ho-oh, for all its weakness to Rock, has the stats and moves to power through, as does Genesect in spite of Fire.  Admittedly, neither of them have to concern themselves with an 80-power priority move in their weakness...

EDIT: Oh, Unbound form changes typing.  Heh, let's trim that out above. ^_^

[umiman]

Yeah, the second form is decent. The first form is worthless.

Also the second form gets a supermove in the form of a dark-type Earthquake. The first form's supermove is a worse Psychic.

His ability is stupid too. He has Trick in his standard moveset and that's so much better than Magician. If you actually, for some strange reason, decided to skip having an item to use Magician... you actually become completely useless against guys who have items you don't want.

[Mageziya]

It's been a long time since I was in this thread, but I'm here because I'm trying to build a competitive team again after a long having not really played. My interest was mainly sparked after the Sun and Moon announcements. I'm mainly using Smogon as a reference point, but am not being absolute with it.

I came here in the past to get help building a team and it turned out great. Team was, though to spare the details since its not the focus of this post: Skarmory, Breloom, Tentacruel (It was shiny, that's why its here), Gardevoir, Latias (shiny), and Mega Sableye. It's a great team that can deal with most situations and even counters the few uber non-legendaries that pop up on 3DS multiplayer.

As for a new team, after years of fiddling with Pokemon, I now have an over abundance of those small, cute legendaries, and wanted to make a team using some.

So far I have:
Jirachi (From the 2011 HG/SS event.)
Nature: Timid; Item: LeftOvers
Planned EVs: Sp. Atk and Speed
Moves:
-Wish
-Psyshock
-Flash Cannon
-Draco Meteor (Unique event only move, if it needs to be ditched, I have a spare, neutral nature'd Jirachi to use instead.)

Manaphy (From the event that started on the first.)
Nature: Bashful ;Item: ?
(I make most of my event legendaries neutral natured, due to being easier to reset for and in case the far-future meta-game gets weird)
EVs: ?
Moves:
-Tail Glow
-Scald
-Energy Ball
-Ice Beam

A to-be Bisharp
(I got a shiny Pawniard in a trade ages ago, ignored it due to its nickname, only now looking at it and noticing it has the right nature, ability, and good IVs. Was dumb to ignore it.)
Nature: Jolly; Item:?
Ability: Defiant
EVs: ?
Moves: ?

This is what I've got, and I'm not sure where to go from here. I sorta like using neat/absurd Pokemon and would be willing to use UU or potentially even lower ranking Pokemon if they help fill gaps on the team. At a quick glance, I need a mega, walls for both attack types, and maybe another physical attacker.

As for the remaining potential cute legendaries that  I could use, though aren't due to being redundant (Special attackers, ect.):
Celebi, Said Spare Jirachi, Shaymin, Victini.

I feel like Diancie would fill a nice hole in this potential team and fit its absurd style of tiny legendaries, except I managed to miss every single Diancie event and trading for one would be a nightmare of task to accomplish.

[umiman]

K.

Jirachi:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Jirachi only exists for one single purpose. You see that ability? Serene Grace?

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Serene Grace will double the chance of a move having an additional effect.Yeah. That's what Jirachi revolves around.

I'm not saying a special attack Jirachi can't work, because it can as it has great typing and funky stats. But... wouldn't you rather have a Jirachi that has thunder wave to paralyze... followed by endless iron heads for 60% flinch? Every single turn the enemy has to roll 50% chance to not be paralyzed and then your 60% chance to flinch to even do anything. Other than that people just give it whatever, it's a pretty flexible Pokemon. I recommend giving it stuff so it can fight its counters. Things like u-turn and protect are great in general.

Manaphy:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

You normally see it with some kind of rain pokemon or it carrying rain dance itself because of its ability hydration. And because of it you also tend to see it run rest as well. Tail glow is a damn good move for it but keep in mind it gets outsped a lot. For items I recommend damp rock for more rain or leftovers because leftovers is super good,

Bisharp:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Bisharp has great typing and good stats but a glaring weakness. It's slow as shit. Because of this, it almost always runs sucker punch. People also tend to put swords dance on it since a +2 sucker punch from Bisharp is pretty freaking scary. Knock off is always good on dark Pokemon. Pursuit gets used occassionally as well. I'm not the biggest fan of it but a lot of people use it well. You see it a lot in doubles or triples because people love to run intimidate there which gives Bisharp free damage. Also great when someone likes to throw out sticky web.

You can put virtually anything on Bisharp whether it be life orb or choice band or even assault vest. Up to you. Keep in mind when you're using Bisharp you will be playing a lot of mindgames as a lot revolves around the sucker punch.

I think you need a rain pokemon for the Manaphy or get other pokemon that synergize with rain. It will also help your two steel types as it protects them from fire. So consider drizzle users like Kyogre or Politoed. Then consider guys that love rain but aren't water-type like Heliolisk (100% accuracy STAB thunder and dry skin baby) or Toxicroak. Breloom, Tentacruel, Skarmory from your previous team are also great here. I like Swanna in rain teams as it has hydration as well while being able to do STAB rain dance surf along with STAB 100% accuracy hurricane.

As for your remaining legendaries...

Celebi is dumb in competitive. Useless typing and useless skills especially considering Shaymin exists.

Shaymin is good with your team I think. Both forms can work well. It has Serene Grace as well if you want to make your opponents break their 3DS in rage with double Serene Grace shenanigans.

Victini doesn't synergize with your Pokemon other than covering the fire angle and doing more damage.

Keep in mind if you use all those legendaries, you'll just end up with a super offensive team of sweepers. I could stall all of you with a Snorlax + Gliscor combo. Everything except the Manaphy. Very difficult to stall a Manaphy in rain.