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Waiting on the third AND fourth one

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GET WELL SOON ZYGARDE

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I am a concientous objector and abstain from taking up arms

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Total Members Voted: 51

[Furtuka]

well this seems troubling

[Aklyon]

Well, its a kotaku article,they tend to sound troubling. But it seems to be well-informed for one.

[Cerol Lenslens]

So...I have hit a lucky break and found out a nice tidbit on EVing in X/Y:

I had a Togetic I wanted to use but it already had EVs invested into it because I forgot to disable the Exp share, well, turns out it only had 5 Spatk EVs. Those were part of its build, this is that nice lucky break.

My discovery is, through EVing this Togetic, I can now, confirm that you cannot, I repeat cannot, exceed 252 in any one stat as of X/Y as the vertical super training bar stopped at exactly 252 despite me forcibly putting +100 Spatk EVs worth past 252 into it to test this. I then went and repeated this with it's other stat, pumping close to a full 510 into this stat, and the bar, this time only leaving room for 6 IVs, never raised past those six until I gave it it's final four EVs.

This officially makes EV training less punishing if you make a mistake in your math, which is nice for me since Math is so not my forte, but it still doesn't prevent accidental EV gains, which is why I say this was a stroke of luck, as this Togetic is one I really wanna use.

This was also the case with the EV training dojos in Join Avenue in BW2. It only makes sense that GameFreak kept that sensibility when devising their new EV training method.

[Felius]

The cheat seems to be just information gathering, not actually changing the results of the battle, which is less horrifying than otherwise. It won't screw with your game or anything, just make the cheater have an easier time beating you up. I'm also guessing that it shouldn't be too hard for gamefreaks to send out a patch that implements a good encryption algorithm for battles or something like that.

On another note, a happy anecdote: Sent out a Haunter out on wonder trade, and what I get back? Also a haunter. Gengars for everyone!

[umiman]

Being able to see the moves of your opponents is ridiculously game breaking.

Sure, with some pokemon you can guess what they will run as they're pretty one dimensional, but if you see a Quagsire for example. Under normal circumstances, you don't know what that Quagsire will do. If you were to guess you'd assume toxic would be involved. Earthquake and waterfall too maybe. Could have recover or maybe stockpile.

Use this tool, you know for sure. If you see it has toxic, you can switch in a steel type immediately for a free turn.

[BuriBuriZaemon]

Choice Band Scizor, Bulky Sweeper Scizor, or Bulky Sweeper Mega Scizor?

[umiman]

I find leftovers Scizor works the best.

Swords dance, bullet punch, roost, pursuit.

The goal is to switch into something stupid like a Forretress or an Azumaril, swords dance two or three times, then bullet punch to victory. A 2 swords dance Scizor can OHKO a Hydreigon with one bullet punch. It's a lot easier than you'd think too, as as long as there's no fire damage out on the field, Scizor can tank 3 hits before going down.

I find the mega form useless as it doesn't do anything beyond increasing all its stats a little (and honestly, you only care about attack, you don't even care about the speed which is still bad anyway). Leftovers is better for survivability than the mega form will ever will be. I don't like choice-ing it as if you put a choice band on it, it's still not strong enough to kill stuff with bullet punch and if you put choice scarf on it, it still won't kill anything!


Edit: Here's a demonstration of Scizor in an all-priority team. Basically I show when to bring out Scizor to start stacking the sword dances.

[BuriBuriZaemon]

I find leftovers Scizor works the best.

Swords dance, bullet punch, roost, pursuit.

Thanks, I like this. Been thinking to save the mega evo for Pinsir due to Aerialite. What's your recommended EV spread for that Scizor build? I'm thinking of 252 Att, 252 HP, 4 Def.

[Eotyrannus]

IIRC, Scizor has the same base stats as Scyther but with a different spread. Would an Eviolite Scyther be any good?

[Knirisk]

IIRC, Scizor has the same base stats as Scyther but with a different spread. Would an Eviolite Scyther be any good?

The only problem is that you lose out on all the resistances of Steel-type. Scizor has 8 resistances and only Fire as a weakness. Scyther has 5 weaknesses and only 3 resistances.

[Reudh]

IIRC, Scizor has the same base stats as Scyther but with a different spread. Would an Eviolite Scyther be any good?

Maaaaaybe, with rapid spin support. That 4x rock weakness will bite Scyther hard.

[Eotyrannus]

IIRC, Scizor has the same base stats as Scyther but with a different spread. Would an Eviolite Scyther be any good?

Maaaaaybe, with rapid spin support. That 4x rock weakness will bite Scyther hard.

Or Defog support. That works too.

[umiman]

IIRC, Scizor has the same base stats as Scyther but with a different spread. Would an Eviolite Scyther be any good?

Scyther also doesn't have STAB bullet punch, which I think is key.

The aforementioned many-weaknesses doesn't help either. He's relatively slow, so all his weaknesses are quite potent.

BuriBuriZaemon: Yep, that's what I use.

[umiman]

Doublepost!

I was thinking to myself, other than my all priority team, what's the lamest team I could make right now? Something lame would have to be a team that doesn't really fight, just waits for you to die somehow.... and is impossible to kill since it keeps healing itself. I think that would be the lamest thing ever. A team of entirely walls and stallers.

So I made this:

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Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 184 Def / 252 HP / 72 Spd
Impish Nature
- Protect
- Substitute
- Toxic
- Earthquake

Breloom @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 Def / 248 HP / 8 SDef
Bold Nature
- Protect
- Bullet Seed
- Leech Seed
- Spore

Reuniclus @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 SAtk
Calm Nature
- Focus Blast
- Psyshock
- Shadow Ball
- Recover

Slowking @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 Def / 252 HP / 4 SAtk
Bold Nature
- Ice Beam
- Scald
- Slack Off
- Fire Blast

Florges (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Flower Veil
EVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 SAtk
Calm Nature
- Aromatherapy
- Protect
- Moonblast
- Wish

Skarmory @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 232 Def / 252 HP / 24 Spd
Bold Nature
- Roost
- Spikes
- Whirlwind
- Brave Bird

I think everyone can see it's incredibly lame. Every single thing on that team heals. Two of them have poison heal. Two of them have regenerator. The two poison healers have both protect and substitute for maximum lameness. Then combine lots of toxic for ultimate lame.

It's done quite well so far. I think I'm winning mostly by making the enemy ragequit rather than anything else. I know if I were fighting it I'd just give up and go to another match that's less lame.

[Urist Imiknorris]

I'm assuming you meant Slowbro?