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Immune to Vampirism?
« on: June 26, 2012, 06:11:51 am »

In the latest version, is it harder to contract Vampirism than before? I'm pulling my beard out in confusion.

I've had 15 elves, 3 dwarves, and 8 humans each kill at least 2 vampires each. Couple elves and humans had nearly a dozen vampire kills, and somehow I've failed to contract any blood thirst. Has the method changed or did I screw something up?

1) Kill Vampire
2) Drink Vamp Blood
3) Wait
4) Feed on someone unconscious

Just for more details. During the actual kill, I've tried biting them a couple times. In almost every encounter, I let a swarm of random people assault the vampires while I get a token blow in when I can. Does Recuperation and Disease Resistance have anything to do with possibility of contraction?

At this point, I have to assume I'm doing something wrong. Back when Vampires were first introduced it didn't seem to be nearly as difficult to actually become one. Finding them was the trouble. In my current world vampires are everywhere(long history) so every other quest is to kill them.
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Re: Immune to Vampirism?
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2012, 06:40:45 am »

Might just be a dud vamp. Keep on trying and you should become Urist McDracula in no time!
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Re: Immune to Vampirism?
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2012, 06:46:40 am »

Can't say I've had any problems with this. I took a break for a few releases because Adventure Mode was too !FUN!, but the few vampires I've encountered I've managed to turn myself by doing what you are. I do go a bit over the top and drink it until I'm full, though I have no idea if volume ingested has any bearing on success.

Are you sure you're drinking the right character's blood though?
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Re: Immune to Vampirism?
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2012, 07:32:22 am »

I'm not sure, but you might try killing a vampire and ONLY drinking his blood (don't eat or drink anything else) to see if that will turn you into a Vampire. It seems that every other time I've had water or drank someone else's blood along with the Vampire, I've failed to turn into one; but if you just drink his you'll turn into one. Might be worth testing.

Edit: Read the Wiki and it says Disease Resistance reduces the chance of becoming a Vampire, so that might be noted here.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2012, 11:23:58 am by DavionFuxa »
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Re: Immune to Vampirism?
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2012, 07:22:20 pm »

It is a bug, most likely. Not much you can do about it short of regenning the world or re-installing DF.

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=106465.msg3160764#msg3160764

EDIT: Haven't heard the disease resistance thing before. That might be it. Do !science! to it.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2012, 07:25:16 pm by Hylas »
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Re: Immune to Vampirism?
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2012, 12:11:48 pm »

I've had high disease resistance a couple of times(once I discovered I can take points off of useless stats.)  and it does seem to interfere with modded syndromes as well.  I wonder if the bug does too.  I don't seek out vampirism though.
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Re: Immune to Vampirism?
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2012, 12:37:45 pm »

Is it possible you're a werecreature or have been cursed by a mummy? In either case, you cannot also become a vampire, because those curse types exclude each other. You must also be a creature that has blood, can learn, is not NOT_LIVING (undead, so husks/zombies can't becoem vampires either) or SUPERNATURAL (I'm not actually sure where this tag is used, though. Maybe on mummies themselves.)

here are the full requirements of the interaction, from some extracted RAWS:

[IT_REQUIRES:CAN_LEARN]
[IT_REQUIRES:HAS_BLOOD]
[IT_FORBIDDEN:NOT_LIVING]
[IT_FORBIDDEN:SUPERNATURAL]
[IT_CANNOT_HAVE_SYNDROME_CLASS:WERECURSE]
[IT_CANNOT_HAVE_SYNDROME_CLASS:VAMPCURSE]
[IT_CANNOT_HAVE_SYNDROME_CLASS:DISTURBANCE_CURSE] < cursed by a mummy.

Disease resistance couldn't factor in because it's an interaction that is targeting you, and there's no resistance to that. The syndrome it causes doesn't have the RESISTABLE tag anywhere in it, either, which permits the disease resistance attribute to control individual effects. If you can confirm you are none of these, then it is probably a bug.
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Re: Immune to Vampirism?
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2012, 08:33:44 pm »

DISTURBANCE_CURSE is the syndrome to BECOME a mummy. So...are you a mummy?
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Re: Immune to Vampirism?
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2012, 07:09:38 am »

I made some !!Science!!. Dwarf with very hight Disease Resistance couldn't be a vampire. Dwarf with very low Disease Resistance became the vampire after drinking blood only one vampire. So if you want be a vampire you should take very low Disease Resistance.
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Re: Immune to Vampirism?
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2012, 08:02:39 am »

DISTURBANCE_CURSE is the syndrome to BECOME a mummy. So...are you a mummy?

Actually, DISTURBANCE is the interction that mummies have on them according to the raws. DISTURBANCE_CURSE is the curse the mummy invokes.

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Re: Immune to Vampirism?
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2012, 11:41:14 am »

I'm inclined to believe it's a bug as Hylas mentions. I'll gen another world in case that's the problem. This world was genned with long history, large size, and above average for everything except minerals which was max.

I run vanilla(only thing modded is a square ascii tileset and some init adjustments like everyone)

I also haven't been a mummy or cursed in any other way. As I mentioned, no one, at all, as been able to contract vampirism. A couple of them had very low disease resistance but the majority were simply default score.

So from about 30 adventurers, each killing at least 2 vampires(which are everywhere because of world age and include animal people vampires), and one of the more recent ones having as many as a dozen encounters(and one vampire pikeman companion) before killing some titans, none have become vampires.

Many forsook water altogether, and just subsisting on berries/dragon meat and vampire blood for many months, before eventually succumbing to errant foot scratches and gangbeatings through iron helms.

If anyone is interested, I can send them the world file and they can start a new adventurer and try themselves. If anyone is successful, I'd be glad to hear it.
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