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[Teneb]

Double post but I think this deserves a bump: the new Phantasm shotgun is outrageously good. I was melting level 80 ancient healers with it just a bit earlier.

[milo christiansen]

Yup, the new shot gun is awesome! When I'm not killing myself with it...

The primary fire is kinda boring, but the altfire is a blast... Literally. With its high status chance, you can proc various effects on whole groups, assuming you don't just blow them up.

Atlas is not hard to farm, the trick is having literally any arch-weapon that is not the Imperator. That, you see, is because the Imperator is absolute trash. Once I did that, archwing in general became so much more enjoyable.

The first (and so far only) time I killed that boss I only had the base equipment and no good mods. Twas a long hard slog. Nowadays I'm sure it would go much better, simply due to better builds and a new weapon.

I rather like archwing, but I don't play it much because it can be hard to find a group.

[Greiger]

Yea archwing is fun once you get the hang of it.  I can see why it gets so much hate though, it's very hard to control at first.  Especially if you turn on experimental flight for the first time.  My first time on experimental flight was the first videogame to make me feel sick in a long time, they aren't kidding when they said they wanted to make it the default but didn't because it made playtesters feel ill.

That said once you get the hang of it you can navigate through that archwing corpus ship tileset pretty fast with it on, you just have to get the hang of 'up' and 'down' being meaningless constructs created by the non experimental flight users

[Twinwolf]

I honestly enjoy the archwing a lot even using the basic gear for it. I'm sure it'd be better with non-starting gear, but I have no idea where to get it.

[chevil]

In my opinion the biggest weakness of archwing is that there are like 4 archwings and 10 arch-weapons. And getting these is not easy.
Not a lot of stuff for a game about getting stuff.

[Criptfeind]

Whoops, wrong thread. Jesus cript. 

[Teneb]

I honestly enjoy the archwing a lot even using the basic gear for it. I'm sure it'd be better with non-starting gear, but I have no idea where to get it.

The Odonata and Veritux is fine, but you can get more archwings (and a few weapons) at the dojo, plus archwing weapon parts at every syndicate. You may need to trade.

[AzyWng]

Does anyone play Conclave all that much anymore? I tried to do a little of it but all I got was one match with someone who actually knew what to do and this trounced me for almost the entire match.

[spazyak]

I have a friend who plays nothing but conclave. I play a bit from time to time too.

I find I almost always get beat by a bunch of valkitties and excalibros.

[MrRoboto75]

Even at best of times archwing is rather meh.  Would rather just play normal old Warframe, or Omega Boost on the PS1.

[nenjin]

They haven't figured out how to make Archwing as cool and pleasurable to play as regular 'ol Warframe. Until they figure that out, and have missions that capitalize on those features, Archwing is always going to feel like a chore.

[Folly]

I started playing again after taking a break for a while. Did some quests yesterday, then logged on today and had a...special visitor, in my orbitor. That was alarming.

[IcyTea31]

Don't worry about the visitor. It shows up randomly and is probably not real. Probably.

[MrRoboto75]

hey, kiddo.

(they're from completing Harrow's quest IIRC)

[Teneb]

He just wants to know how you're doing, kiddo.