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[Flying Dice]

Frost can't go afk in any content where you actually need him rather than use him to be extra lazy. Gotta be casting globe every four seconds in high level content because even the absorbed health from level 100+ enemies won't keep it up long.

As for Gara, she became strictly inferior to Frost as a defensive frame when Mass Vitrify got nerfed. Remember, it used to be invulnerable just like Snow Globe always has been, except it was invulnerable for the full (long) duration rather than the first four seconds. That on top of it blocking enemies entirely rather than just blocking fire from outside and slowing (+freezing with the augment) ones that walked inside. She was the definition of power creep and got nerfed for a reason.

She's in a decent spot right now. 90% DR is right up there with the other frames that are survivable but not outright invincible--still strictly inferior to Rhino, Limbo, Inaros, Frost (on defense), Wukong, (effectively) Oberon, &c., but about as good as post-nerf Trinity, Mesa, Nova, &c. and she has mid-tier area defense and single-target ability damage.

The Splinter Storm -> Mass Vitrify -> Shattered Lash damage buff is... eh. Yeah, technically and hypothetically infinite scaling, but it's very short ranged and takes a shitload of casts of three separate abilities to get damage numbers that you can get from a single cast on a number of other frames. And, functionally speaking, it's not really infinite scaling in a practical sense because you're not going to have the time or energy to recast the full sequence enough to deal with high level enemies. High level content is all about CC abilities in conjunction with weapons precisely because most damage abilities just can't be used efficiently against health pools measured in millions (much less against armor if you don't have 4x corrosive projection).

Bear in mind that the nuke from hitting the wall with the lash doesn't scale well. It's only good for killing low level trash, and there are a pile of better nukes out there. The explosion range doesn't get very big even if you max range at the expense of strength.

Before the nerf she was absolutely busted, even worse than Limbo for making defense objectives trivial.

[nenjin]

Got two rare mods from two different acolytes last night in just two runs. I'm told the odds of that are like 1 in 600 something.

[Greiger]

I've been trying to get argon scope for hours straight now.  That's the only one I'm interested in since I have this deeply trained inbuilt need to aim before I fire any weapon.  I'll aim down sights a shotgun before I fire it, I just don't do hipfire, even though I'm sure there are plenty of situations that call for it.

The argon scope actually has a chance of turning that into an advantage, all I need to do is get a headshot every 9 seconds, which seems easy.

[Ozyton]

I'll aim down sights a shotgun before I fire it

As far as I know this actually tightens the spread of the pellets if only slightly, and shotguns have a decent range in this game anyway so that's perfectly viable. Shooting from the hip is awkward but there are times when being able to move quicker while shooting is better. Or if you use the Stradavar I guess.

I think I actually have all of the acolyte mods from the alst time they showed up but it's nice that they're becoming more readily available.

[Rex_Nex]

Frost can't go afk in any content where you actually need him rather than use him to be extra lazy. Gotta be casting globe every four seconds in high level content because even the absorbed health from level 100+ enemies won't keep it up long.

I think that just depends on how you build your Frost, a maxed out power/eff build (with stretch for usability) has around 500,000 HP worth of bubble in one use of an energy pizza. My bad frost build has around half that, and that's enough to sit around and let twenty level 100 bombard eximus units fire at me for a few minutes without much worry. I think Fleeting Expertise is the real difference between having a virtually indestructible bubble and one that requires constant recasting.

As for Gara, you're probably right, I have to actually take her into some sorties 2/3's to put her into perspective. I really want to see how far you can scale the explosion damage with a good riven though - I could get up to about 400% extra increased damage on it if I had a good skana riven, which should let the wall kill anything that isn't armored even in sortie content. Right now it takes about 8 vitrify explosions before my splinter storm starts oneshotting level 100 unarmored mobs, so I'm hoping that would speed it up. That's if I understand Gara correctly - her splinter storm damage is based off her wall damage, which is based off her shattered leash damage, which is based off your melee mods. Really convoluted!

[Teneb]

I've been trying to get argon scope for hours straight now.  That's the only one I'm interested in since I have this deeply trained inbuilt need to aim before I fire any weapon.  I'll aim down sights a shotgun before I fire it, I just don't do hipfire, even though I'm sure there are plenty of situations that call for it.

The argon scope actually has a chance of turning that into an advantage, all I need to do is get a headshot every 9 seconds, which seems easy.

I've actually given up on farming it (and other rare mods that I don't have) and instead am focusing on getting a bunch of blood rushes to max rank to trade for plat, because they are worth as much as an unranked argon scope.

[nenjin]

Isn't Blood Rush going to go bye bye, along with all the other combo counter stuff when they update melee again?

[Teneb]

Isn't Blood Rush going to go bye bye, along with all the other combo counter stuff when they update melee again?

Maybe, but for now it fetches 100 plat if ranked to max.

[MrRoboto75]

Isn't Blood Rush going to go bye bye, along with all the other combo counter stuff when they update melee again?

The combo counter will still exist, but serve a different function

The viability of these sorts of mods though still exists in the realm of "We don't know yet"

[BlackFlyme]

Revenant is out, along with the Phantasma shotgun, an armor set, and a kavat armor set. Phantasma's blueprint is purchased from the market for 25,000 Credits.

To start Revenant's quest, you need to have at least rank Observer in the Quills. Go to Cetus and buy a new mask off of the mask seller, Nakak. In order to be able to advance the quest and obtain Revenant's blueprint, you will need to have the rest of Revenant's parts made, the blueprints of which can be farmed in Konzu's bounties.

Spoiler: Crafting Requirements (click to show/hide)

Neuroptics:
15,000 Credits
3 Neural Sensors,
15 Intact Sentient Cores,
6,000 Polymer Bundles,
2,200 Rubedo

Chassis:
15,000 Credits,
3 Morphics,
10 Intact Sentient Cores,
1,500 Rubedo,
50 Iradite

Systems:
15,000 Credits,
3 Control Modules,
3 Cetus Wisps,
8,000 Salvage,
3,000 Polymer Bundles

Phantasma:
20,000 Credits,
2 Argon Crystals,
10 Intact Sentient Cores,
650 Plastids,
12,500 Nano Spores

[milo christiansen]

I farmed up Revenant last night, the nueroptics were hell. From what I have heard he is very... mediocre. Not bad, not good, just kinda on the low end of OK.

At least he isn't a "tour of plains resources" like Gara.

Anyway, 70 hours until I can level him and then never use him again until he gets a rework or prime.

EDIT: Last night there were a ton of people running around with him, It must be nice to have more plat than brains... Not that I would spend it on him anyway

[wereboar]

Or maybe some people just like to support their favourite game financially. Mind blown.

[Folly]

Warframe is one of the few games where I have spent significantly more money than I felt I needed to, just because of the overwhelming number of hours of playtime I'd already gotten out of it.

[MrRoboto75]

EDIT: Last night there were a ton of people running around with him, It must be nice to have more plat than brains... Not that I would spend it on him anyway

Instead I spurged 10 dollars on getting Atlas.

[Teneb]

EDIT: Last night there were a ton of people running around with him, It must be nice to have more plat than brains... Not that I would spend it on him anyway

Instead I spurged 10 dollars on getting Atlas.

Atlas is not hard to farm, the trick is having literally any arch-weapon that is not the Imperator. That, you see, is because the Imperator is absolute trash. Once I did that, archwing in general became so much more enjoyable.