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Author Topic: Warframe - F2P Sci-fi L4D-like  (Read 247551 times)

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Re: Warframe - F2P Sci-fi L4D-like
« Reply #210 on: November 26, 2013, 12:37:58 am »

Wasn't playing in alpha...

But I imagine not a ton has really changed. Core gameplay is still the same pretty much. You can basically level and re-level frames and weapons now, changing polarity slots so you can eventually fill all 8 mod slots and still have capacity left over. Everything relating to gameplay can still be earned without paying a dime, you're just at the mercy of the RNG. Way more frames. Tons of weapons. There's a crap ton of mission types now versus then. Survival is the new hotness, just non-stop enemies of every increasing levels, as long as you can stay alive or keep the O2 going. There's essentially 3 classes of mods these days: mods that drop from the enemies found across the normal star map; mods only found in Nightmare missions; and mods found in missions that require keys to access. Keys you get from doing stuff like Endless Defense or Survival. There's guilds and guild dojos where you can buy special blueprints or duel or trade mods and keys.
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Re: Warframe - F2P Sci-fi L4D-like
« Reply #211 on: November 26, 2013, 01:19:09 am »

I hardly care about setting my loadout up in a right way, because I'm still using excalibur and stock weapons (other than lato vandal and cronus). I'm currently grinding up enough credits to build a Bo, because I was stupid and spent the majority of my money trying to figure out what transmuting mods did. Also, anyone use Rhino? His abilities seem pretty good, and I'd probably setting up as a tank, because I keep getting downed during boss fights.

As Nenjin said, rhino is fantastic. Iron skin will keep you safe easily in early missions, and still provides a comfortable cushion against attacks later on. Stomp is among the best ultimates (skills that cost 100 energy base) in the game. Roar is a decent support skill. I have nothing nice to say about rhino charge, it's pretty meh. Vanguard helmet gets rid of his one downside. Rhino is busted in a lot of ways, and while I keep expecting him to get nerfed, he does not get nerfed. If you want a nice solid frame that can do anything easily, rhino is your guy. Vanguard helm will probably be hard to get a hold of as it's alert only, so until then your run speed will be rather slow.

Also if I may make a suggestion, look into replacing your braton-MK1 with a normal braton ASAP. It's a lot better and a well modded braton can easily make it to the end game, moreso now that armor has been nerfed. To boot you can just buy it with credits, you don't need to build it. One of the few weapons you can do that with.

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Re: Warframe - F2P Sci-fi L4D-like
« Reply #212 on: November 26, 2013, 09:28:55 am »

Oh man, I haven't played this since Alpha.

Methinks its time to patch this and get back into it!

Anything a person who remembers pretty much nothing from it needs to know?
If "alpha" means "before update 7", then everything short of "space ninjas killing stuff" changed.
First, the talent tree you might remember is GONE, replaced by the mod system. Damage 2.0 happened, making all weapons specialized.
There is several new planets, bosses have been revamped (not all of them yet), there is like 16 warframes now, and more than a hundred weapons. Void stuff happened, gear changed a lot, there is a codex in game now, and tons of other stuff, including clans and research.
Treat it as a whole different game is the best advice I can give you.
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Re: Warframe - F2P Sci-fi L4D-like
« Reply #213 on: November 26, 2013, 07:42:58 pm »

*snippity-do*
Also if I may make a suggestion, look into replacing your braton-MK1 with a normal braton ASAP. It's a lot better and a well modded braton can easily make it to the end game, moreso now that armor has been nerfed. To boot you can just buy it with credits, you don't need to build it. One of the few weapons you can do that with.
... There's a difference between Braton mkI and just straight up Braton? Boy, that's news to me. On the upside, I just managed to start crafting a Bo, so that'll be a little thematically amusing with excalibur :P. I also have Rhino chassis blueprints, so that'll probably be my next project.

Also, one last thing. I don't really understand clans and the dojo. The MOTD says something about the great hall, but I have no clue how to go there.
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Re: Warframe - F2P Sci-fi L4D-like
« Reply #214 on: November 26, 2013, 10:02:01 pm »

To go to you clan hall you need to craft a Clan Key, which you use like a void key to go to your clan hall, except it isn't consumed on use.
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Re: Warframe - F2P Sci-fi L4D-like
« Reply #215 on: November 27, 2013, 12:07:51 am »

You buy the clan hall key from the Market IIRC.
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Re: Warframe - F2P Sci-fi L4D-like
« Reply #216 on: November 27, 2013, 01:10:48 am »

... There's a difference between Braton mkI and just straight up Braton? Boy, that's news to me. On the upside, I just managed to start crafting a Bo, so that'll be a little thematically amusing with excalibur :P. I also have Rhino chassis blueprints, so that'll probably be my next project.

Also, one last thing. I don't really understand clans and the dojo. The MOTD says something about the great hall, but I have no clue how to go there.

Yep! It's the only case of "Assault rifle - MK1 / Assault rifle this one is better for no reason" so don't get too discourgaed by it, but braton just does more damage in general. MK-1 isn't as bad as it used to be but it's still worse, and it's well worth upgrading it.

And yeah, you should just be able to look in your foundry to find the key needing to be built. Mostly needs simple to find stuff, if I recall you can get all the mats on mercury and venus.

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Re: Warframe - F2P Sci-fi L4D-like
« Reply #217 on: November 27, 2013, 01:27:33 am »

Honestly, with damage 2.0 Mk.1 does only slightly less damage than the regular braton (17 versus 20), but those damages are reparted differently (2.5/4.25/10.2 versus 6.6/6.6/6.8), making the Mk.1 specialised against infested (about 22 damage) when the regular braton is a jack-of-all-trades (about 24 damage after resistances). But the regular braton is STILL better than the Mk.1 versus infested, and by the time you even meet infested you are up to, what, earth?
It also have a ridiculously small status chance (1% versus 5%) and lower crit rate (5% versus 10%)
Mk.1 also have a slower rate of fire and higher precision. Precision doesn't matter much, but the slower RoF further decimates the Mk.1 DPS.

Holy crap, I read the wiki for this, and turns out the Mk.1 is crappier than ever. Get a regular braton, NOW.
Guaranteed DOUBLED DPS against grineer, unmodded.
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Re: Warframe - F2P Sci-fi L4D-like
« Reply #218 on: November 27, 2013, 09:48:09 pm »

Wait, really?

I've just finished all of Earth and I'm still using the starting equipment, except the sword. I've swapped out my Skana for a Cronus the second I got it. My MK.1 is rank 26 now.
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Re: Warframe - F2P Sci-fi L4D-like
« Reply #219 on: November 27, 2013, 10:20:25 pm »

mmhmm. Basically with the new damage system, MK-1 does mostly slash damage innately. Slash is good against infested, but infested are also highly resistant to the other physical types. Grineer are mostly armor type and the light grineer are flesh. Slash is also good against flesh, so that's a minor point in it's corner for the grineer planets, but puncture is good against armor, so a puncture weapon would do better. Impact is good on shields, and as such good on corpus, but corpus aren't... terribly threatening right now, although moas have gotten a notable buff and are kind've nasty.

Braton has equal damage types which makes it a good all around weapon that can be modded to fit any situation, whereas MK-1 has a notable advantage against infested, which can be a good thing! It's certainly more then it had pre update 11! But most people just use a slash based melee weapon for infested, as they tend to swarm around you.

SO I guess in summary, MK-1 is certainly a fine weapon, and it can get you farther then it used to, but once you've got it leveled for the mastery, unless you desperately want to avoid using bladed melee weapons and/or have an attachment to the MK-1 specifically for whatever reason, the Braton will serve you better in the long run.

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Re: Warframe - F2P Sci-fi L4D-like
« Reply #220 on: November 27, 2013, 10:57:40 pm »

Plus, after Earth is where the curve starts to hurt for real reals. You will feel it especially if you're soloing.
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Re: Warframe - F2P Sci-fi L4D-like
« Reply #221 on: November 27, 2013, 11:00:33 pm »

Yep! Pre update 11, earth was where I started suddenly and terribly dying even though I knew what I was doing. Lua is particularly brutal, and if you're soloing I would highly reccomend not soloing for it. It is rediculous.

Also, for people interested in lore, look at the excalibur codex entry! Also the stalker codex entry is here. Got it from reddit.

Spoiler: Stalker lore (click to show/hide)

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Re: Warframe - F2P Sci-fi L4D-like
« Reply #222 on: November 27, 2013, 11:28:33 pm »

I never got a chance to look into the lore much, especially since you don't seem to be told much in missions themselves, but apparently this game is something of a sequel to darkSector. Granted, darkSector as I played it was nothing like what it was originally meant to be. It looks like it was originally supposed to be like a single-player version of Warframe, going by the original trailers.

Anyways, I've just gotten myself a titan extractor! Shame you can only deploy one at a time. And since it looks like I'll be hitting a difficulty curve soon, I'll have to look into replacing my Braton A.S.A.P., but first I'm trying to get myself a Rhino. I just watched one steamroll Everest on Nightmare Mode.

E: Or not, turns out one of the materials I'll need is all they way on Neptune.
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Re: Warframe - F2P Sci-fi L4D-like
« Reply #223 on: November 27, 2013, 11:43:45 pm »

I still don't quite know what the background this game has, other than the little I've pieced together. I'm actually rather disappointed that the other warframes on have their shop descriptions for codex entries.
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Re: Warframe - F2P Sci-fi L4D-like
« Reply #224 on: November 28, 2013, 05:39:59 am »

*snip*
E: Or not, turns out one of the materials I'll need is all they way on Neptune.

If you can manage to get a hold of an orokin tower key, control modules drop there at a decent rate, and the tier 1 keys are much much easier then neptune. They drop rarely from defense mission wave rewards and survival missions at 15 minutes (they're currently a touch bugged and levels are scaling up at a pretty rediculous pace in them, though so I'd reccomend not trying that now)

And LORE. I am a lore nerd. I will elaborate on Warframe lore! There's not a lot of it so far.

Spoiler: Warframe Lore (click to show/hide)

I do believe DE intends to expand the codex, I'm certainly hoping they flesh out the warframe entries more myself.
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