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Author Topic: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 8 - No Country For Ghandi  (Read 47593 times)

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Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 8 - No Country For Ghandi
« Reply #390 on: August 17, 2012, 02:32:48 am »

"I would use elephants, but they make a terrible racket when there's too many of them!"
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Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 8 - No Country For Ghandi
« Reply #391 on: August 17, 2012, 06:15:00 am »

As an aside, that noise that all your Oni make when they fire off their ranged weapons is pretty awful, Palazzo. I don't know how you can stand it.
What? I can't hear you over the racket the Oni are making.

Apropos peeping toms, I've summoned a Watcher for the first time ever, and it turs out that I can't order it to patrol the province. Does it mean it's borked, or does the patrol bonus work against stealthed units passively?

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200+ wind-guided bakemono archers with flaming arrows

Ah yes, that'd do it. There actually aren't too many ways to counter that at this stage. I mean, arrow fend would help considerably, but Agartha probably has trouble casting that. He's ahead in research, but Army of Gold is still probably several months down the line.
As you can see, TempAcc thought of a way of dealing with the bakemono menace, risky as it was.
Spoiler: Looks bad, man (click to show/hide)
Unfortunately for him, obvious plan was obvious, and the bakemono had been sent away to a holiday resort.

And so, the war against the giant, pale empire of evil continues. It is a heroic David vs Golliath struggle, as immortalised in the following picture:
Spoiler: You can do it, boy! (click to show/hide)
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Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 8 - No Country For Ghandi
« Reply #392 on: August 17, 2012, 11:03:50 am »

As an aside, that noise that all your Oni make when they fire off their ranged weapons is pretty awful, Palazzo. I don't know how you can stand it.
What? I can't hear you over the racket the Oni are making.

Apropos peeping toms, I've summoned a Watcher for the first time ever, and it turs out that I can't order it to patrol the province. Does it mean it's borked, or does the patrol bonus work against stealthed units passively?
Isn't a Watcher a unit instead of a commander? Put it under a mage's command and have them patrol that way.
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Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 8 - No Country For Ghandi
« Reply #393 on: August 17, 2012, 11:11:59 am »

At least in this mod it summons a pair of them, one commader and one unit, each with half the patrolling effectiveness of vanilla Dom3. So that would mean half of it is wasted.
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Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 8 - No Country For Ghandi
« Reply #394 on: August 17, 2012, 11:19:19 am »

At least in this mod it summons a pair of them, one commader and one unit, each with half the patrolling effectiveness of vanilla Dom3. So that would mean half of it is wasted.
Huh. And the trouble you're having is that you can't have the commander one patrol, then?
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Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 8 - No Country For Ghandi
« Reply #395 on: August 17, 2012, 11:22:20 am »

Yeah. I was hoping for a nice network of Watchers in otherwise empty provinces catching all the pesky spies. I'm sure as hell not going to waste a mage on that.
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Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 8 - No Country For Ghandi
« Reply #396 on: August 17, 2012, 11:22:57 am »

I think they messed up with it, but I'm not entirely sure. I used the similar nature Kelp Ancient spell and they're pretty much useless unless something attacks them. I'm not sure if it's a conflict with immobile commanders being unable to patrol or what the issue actually is, though.
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Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 8 - No Country For Ghandi
« Reply #397 on: August 17, 2012, 11:27:55 am »

Or maybe mindless commanders being unable to? If the commander one had any leadership it might make sense to have it summon a pair of them like that, but it does seem broken this way.
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Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 8 - No Country For Ghandi
« Reply #398 on: August 17, 2012, 11:33:24 am »

Or maybe mindless commanders being unable to? If the commander one had any leadership it might make sense to have it summon a pair of them like that, but it does seem broken this way.
It does have 10 magic leadership.
Oh well, borked thing is borked.
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Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 8 - No Country For Ghandi
« Reply #399 on: August 17, 2012, 11:42:02 am »

Oh right, I didn't check that.

Did you try giving the order with the keyboard shortcut (X), or copying patrol orders from another commander?
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Il Palazzo

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Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 8 - No Country For Ghandi
« Reply #400 on: August 17, 2012, 12:04:18 pm »

Did you try giving the order with the keyboard shortcut (X), or copying patrol orders from another commander?
Ah, yes. Cheers chap, X works, oddly enough. By the way, how do you copy strategic orders between commanders?
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Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 8 - No Country For Ghandi
« Reply #401 on: August 17, 2012, 12:09:30 pm »

Oh that's really good to know.
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The moment the lever was pulled, somebody's pet kitten stepped onto the bridge. I read somewhere that if a cat falls more than 11 stories, it instinctively flares its legs out to increase air resistance. This slows it down enough to stick the landing with relatively minor injuries. In Dwarf Fortress, apparently, cats don't do that.

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Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 8 - No Country For Ghandi
« Reply #402 on: August 17, 2012, 02:08:14 pm »

By the way, how do you copy strategic orders between commanders?
Well it's not copying really. That was poor word choice. What I meant was you could group it with another commander (with shift-click) and then give that second commander a patrol order which would also be given to the Watcher, since they're grouped. Then you could ungroup them and give the second commander whatever order you wanted.

There's a fair number of 'exploits' with the keyboard shortcut orders: you can bloodhunt underwater or search for sites during a siege, for example. Using Watchers as the mod creators must have intended is permissible, as far as I'm concerned.

EDIT for Turn 51:
Good show all around. Nicely done with those berserkers, C'tis, the low protection in the Fire Melquart model is something you should be exploiting. Poor old President Taft won't be winning any more elections. However, don't you think you ought to stop grouping all your Sauromancers in those tight little packages on the back row? You actually don't want to make it easy for me to snipe them.

Sorry about your two Air Queens, Caelum. Getting Queen Latifah back with that soul slay crossbow was a bit of a cheap shot though, don't you think?

I'm glad to see that Yomi's Watchers are working as intended. My scouts sure will be leading eventful lives from here on.

Agartha, do you really have nothing better to spend gold on than province defense? There must have been 30 or 40 that poor Ingvar ran into.
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Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 8 - No Country For Ghandi
« Reply #403 on: August 18, 2012, 12:32:14 am »

Meh, they were nice while they lasted, although it probably would have been nicer if they'd stuck around. At this point half of the reason I'm summoning things is just to see how different they are from vanilla/base CBM. I probably should have given them actual equipment and sent them out as combatants instead of mages, given the assumption that you'd probably be lightning immune by default by now. I AM pretty happy that those crossbows finally actually killed something other than some random province defense (and even that was rare).

Edit: I just realized something. Isn't movement into friendly provinces supposed to happen before movement into enemy ones? Why were my Queens attacked in my own territory before my units got there? Does it have to do with flying?
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The moment the lever was pulled, somebody's pet kitten stepped onto the bridge. I read somewhere that if a cat falls more than 11 stories, it instinctively flares its legs out to increase air resistance. This slows it down enough to stick the landing with relatively minor injuries. In Dwarf Fortress, apparently, cats don't do that.

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Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 8 - No Country For Ghandi
« Reply #404 on: August 18, 2012, 12:53:24 am »

Yes, but the magic attack phase occurs before normal movement. It's a pity I can't get my Astral Baals to survive for any length of time, getting a proper squad of teleporting SC assassins would be great fun. Anyway, why are you just asking about this now? How did you think I targeted and killed all your Eagle Kings?
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