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[Bluerobin]

Well Il P, if it helps, I can tell you they're wrong about at least one thing. Also, CAELUM WILL CLAIM THE SPIREHORN MOUNTAINS!

(even though they're not an actual province)

[Il Palazzo]

Well, let me tell you, you didn't get it all right w/r to Your Mother! But close enough.

[Korbac]

The Great Perplexo has once again left everyone Perplexed Greatly!

[TempAcc]

I had no idea what to name my prophet, so I used the first thing my friend said after I asked him what he would name a giant pale cyclops.

And the Mal'Dahak thing is part of the fluff I had thought up, and might or might not use if we bother with these things later

I was going to name him violent J, because agarthans look pudgy and pale like jugallos, but gave up once I realized agarthans prob know how magnets work.

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I also think Il P's pretender is the kali/deva thing.

[Il Palazzo]

Your Mother so rude she claims the central forest for herself!

[Boksi]

Huh. Only half the nations took a province on the first turn; none took two.

Let's analyze this:
Ermor: Good troops, and research chart indicates an asleep/imprisoned pretender, so one province is reasonable.
Mictlan: I have no idea why they failed to take a province. Admittedly, I don't know how good their starting army is and they don't have an awake pretender. In fact, they didn't even recruit a mage on the first turn, it seems. I have no idea what he's doing and I suspect he doesn't either.
Caelum: Overtaxing like mad, so the army stays home. High precision flyers are good for patrolling, I'll admit. With that research, he's definitely aiming for an Eagle King blitz.
C'tis: Nothing particularly notable here.
Pan: Also overtaxing like Caelum. Not sure why in this case, I have little experience with the nation. He probably wants Pans, I guess.
Agartha: Didn't take a province, but did start overtaxing. Huh. Personally, I'd have recruited some unarmored boulder throwers on turn one and then go expanding.
Yomi: Bandits and turn 1 recruits go out to conquer while yo momma sits around the house. Literally. Because she's fat.
Hinnom: Did not recruit a mage on turn 1, does not have an awake pretender, but does have giants and probably expanded into a farmland province.

[puntocom]

Huh. Only half the nations took a province on the first turn; none took two.

Let's analyze this:
Ermor: Good troops, and research chart indicates an asleep/imprisoned pretender, so one province is reasonable.
Mictlan: I have no idea why they failed to take a province. Admittedly, I don't know how good their starting army is and they don't have an awake pretender. In fact, they didn't even recruit a mage on the first turn, it seems. I have no idea what he's doing and I suspect he doesn't either.
Caelum: Overtaxing like mad, so the army stays home. High precision flyers are good for patrolling, I'll admit. With that research, he's definitely aiming for an Eagle King blitz.
C'tis: Nothing particularly notable here.
Pan: Also overtaxing like Caelum. Not sure why in this case, I have little experience with the nation. He probably wants Pans, I guess.
Agartha: Didn't take a province, but did start overtaxing. Huh. Personally, I'd have recruited some unarmored boulder throwers on turn one and then go expanding.
Yomi: Bandits and turn 1 recruits go out to conquer while yo momma sits around the house. Literally. Because she's fat.
Hinnom: Did not recruit a mage on turn 1, does not have an awake pretender, but does have giants and probably expanded into a farmland province.

Hello.

Is it really necessary to make a public analysis of the other players, and say something like the Mictlan player doesn't know what is he doing?

I don't know, i thought that this game was about having fun, not serious bussines..

[Boksi]

HOW DARE YOU CRITICIZE ME YOU MORTAL FOOL, I AM A GOD, I AM INFALLIBLE ARG GRARG ARBNLEMNIOGRTS

Well I guess that 'doesn't know what he's doing' comment may be in somewhat bad taste, but I really don't understand what he might be doing. He seems to be going in slow when Mictlan has always been a strong early-game nation.

And that analysis certainly isn't serious business. If it were, I'd keep it to myself.

[Il Palazzo]

I don't know about Mictlan, but I definitely don't know what I'm doing.

[Shadowgandor]

I had a bit more resources on my test run with my pretender, so that was a slight setback on this map. I'll just keep it with that

[Karlito]

Pay attention. Mictlan recruited a Priest King, and then made him prophet. That means he'll have H3 and be able to cast divine bless, so on the next turn his jaguar warriors will begin cutting through independent provinces like a hot knife through butter.

Or maybe not. Boksi's analysis of me was off, mine probably isn't any better. It'll still be a few turns until we start having actual reasons to hate on each other in here, so I suppose we can try and keep it relaxed until then.

I will say that I know exactly, what I'm doing.

[Boksi]

Still seems a bit slow. Couldn't he prophetize his scout or something on the first turn and recruit a bunch of jags, and then attack on the second? I don't see much advantage in waiting to prophetize a priest king over a starting commander.

I'm curious in how my analysis of you was off though. Hmmm.

"Did not recruit a mage on turn 1, does not have an awake pretender, but does have giants and probably expanded into a farmland province."
Let's add some facts: Did not overtax on turn 1, which is important. Dominion spread matches mine for the first turn, but my prophet increased my spread after that. Has done no research.

I think we can rule out an awake pretender. He's got little dominion and no research, and not enough gems to start forging on turn 1. He could have recruited a mage on turn 1 and used him to forge something, I guess. Hinnom is a nation of giants, so that can't be wrong. Might not have the biggest giants, but they're still way bigger than humans. Finally that bit about expanding into a farmland is based on the income rise, although I'm bad at deriving actual values from the graphs so I can't tell exactly how much his income increased by.

Well, it doesn't really matter until we start killing each other.

EDIT: Oh yeah, blood hunting, could have set a turn 1 mage to blood hunting, although I can't fathom why.

[Bluerobin]

Well, you're assuming we're all players who know the game inside and out and have all of our turns for the first 6 months to a year planned out ahead of time, which might throw a few wrenches in to things. If someone didn't overtax on turn one, there's a chance they didn't know they could or just forgot to set it up. If someone prophetizes a certain unit it could just be because they like it for flavor (or a sweet name). If someone picks bad names for things it could just be that they forgot to rename or are just bad at naming things. Or heck, if someone says you're off in your analysis they could be outright lying just to throw you off.

This is the main reason I don't really like the speculation about exactly what's going on. Sure posting things puts everyone on a sort of level playing field (since you learn how to do the analysis with experience), but there's also a certain amount of judging the competency of the people you're playing with, which is really hard not to make hostile.

[Boksi]

Yeah, I guess it's pretty pointless. I'm mostly doing this for my own enjoyment actually, I don't think I'll really benefit from this analysis. I should just get to roleplaying or something instead, this isn't supposed to be a super-serious game is it?

[Karlito]

Still seems a bit slow. Couldn't he prophetize his scout or something on the first turn and recruit a bunch of jags, and then attack on the second? I don't see much advantage in waiting to prophetize a priest king over a starting commander.

Well, I can't speak for Shadowgander, obviously, but as someone who plays Mictlan a lot, it does make sense. Jaguars are sacred, so there's a limit to how many you can recruit in a turn. 7 Jaguars might not cut it against the independents, but 14 with some of the other units to screen for them certainly will. A scout prophet doesn't make as much sense for Mictlan, because you can't preach. The scout doesn't have enough leadership on his own to lead an army of Jaguars around, so it's better to have him actually scouting. You could make the starting Tribal King a prophet I suppose, but the freespawn slaves work well as arrow catchers for the Jaguars, so one might have him go hunting for slaves instead as long as you have to wait.

It doesn't really matter if you're one province down on turn three as long you aren't 5 provinces down on turn 10.