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[kopout]

20 Drone Eggs (Gen 1) - Hatch, after that send existing obsolete 15 Basic Drones to the recycler
16 Flying Drone Eggs (Gen 1)  Hatch 16. We need surface working force
17 Soldier Eggs (Gen 1) - Hatch 10, recycle rest, recycle basic soldiers
12 Flying Soldier Eggs (Gen 1) Hatch all
4 Predator Eggs (Gen 1) Hatch one.
2 Nurse Egg (Gen 1) Hatch all
2 Commander Egg (Gen 1) Hatch all

Edit: forgot that they will give only larvaes... Same but delay sending existing drones to recycler

The  Eggs who's fate we are deciding are inside Us. we only have to decide which ones to lay. Also I agree with this suggestion.

shouldn't the soldiers be arriving at the substation soon?

> do !!science!! on the 5 human corpses we have. look especially for cybernetic enhancements. Scan their bar codes!

[RAM]

The markings are unlikely to be interesting. The bipeds clearly lack a mind so some form of identification of their drones would be required, and such identification would be meaningless without the relevant references...

P.S.
 Base 12 means replacing 10 with 12
counting in Base 10:
00, 01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15.
Counting in base 12(using ! instead of 10 and @ instead of 11):
00, 01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 0!, 0@, 10, 11, 12, 13.
So 7+8=15 in base 10 and 7+8=13 in base 12 because base twelve has two extra numbers before increasing the number of digits...

Computers use binary, which is base 2 and only has 2 digits:
0, 1, 10, 11, 100, 101, 110, 111, 1000, 1001, 1010, 1011, 1100, 1101, 1110, 1111.

But this doesn't seem to be the thread in which to play with alien maths...

[kopout]

> determine the optimal wavelength(s) of light for the flowers to grow in then construct grow lamps for them that operate in these wave lengths.

[Carp Slayer]

> determine the optimal wavelength(s) of light for the flowers to grow in then construct grow lamps for them that operate in these wave lengths.

I say we develop robotic dwarves badgers.

[kingfisher1112]

Let Us create auto-miners, we are of the Mind, and technology should guide us.

[bukitodinos]

Let Us create auto-miners, we are of the Mind, and technology should guide us.

or flower tender robots

[10ebbor10]

Let Us create auto-miners, we are of the Mind, and technology should guide us.

or flower tender robots

We have an automated flower tender system.

Let Us create auto-miners, we are of the Mind, and technology should guide us.

Depends, technology should help the hive, and making the drones useless would not do. Giving them laser drills would work though.

I'd say we also develop Magnetic shielding. (Gravitic shielding is technically impossible, and if we can manipulate gravity, there are far more interesting things we can do with it.)

Other things we can do is see how the building looting progresses, and begin construction of vehicles. We will need these at least to take over the nearest settlement:

- Fighter jets: Because blowing up things is fun
- Transport
- Tanks: Because not being blown up is fun
- Rockets: For the anti sat plan

[kingfisher1112]

Rockets, sounds sweet. Maybe one with a queen sized chamber.
OH OH OH, HOW ABOUT ANDROIDS THAT LOOK LIKE HUMANS?
We get the people to give us cultural advice, and as a replacement for the brain slug idea.

[bukitodinos]

and as a replacement for the brain slug idea.

how so?

[10ebbor10]

Rockets, sounds sweet. Maybe one with a queen sized chamber.
OH OH OH, HOW ABOUT ANDROIDS THAT LOOK LIKE HUMANS?
We get the people to give us cultural advice, and as a replacement for the brain slug idea.
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Our current rocket tech is about at the level where we can just decide where we blow it up.not nearly near the tech required for interplanetary voyages.

As for the androids. At the moment we know about 50 words. I'm pretty sure we would be highly suspicious, including thee. Factt. That we should up weird up heath sensors, trigger each And any meetal sensor, annd don't have any identity, which wouldn't. Be problem on Earth, but would. Be on Mars.

We shuould do a new search of the surroundings, using the humaan network

[Ross Vernal]

[Sorry, was busy being AMERICAN and such. LoverGirl says hi, as does the sub-DM managing the Pirate side.]

As a matter of fact, we do have an effective form of stasis. The Flowers are currently stored that way. The Seed is not, as of yet, placed into stasis. You think it should work pretty decently on Us, but there's not much point.

You still have yet to find out if your bio cold fusion theory is correct, by the way.

You feed the Tech Drone Royal Jelly and instruct it to make itself fertile while You lay 20 Drone Eggs, 16 Flying Drone Eggs, 10 Soldier Eggs, 12 Flying Soldier Eggs, 2 Predator Eggs, 2 Nurses, and 2 Commanders, and leave standing orders with unadapted Drones to, when they are replaced, work until the end of their food cycle, then to join Our food cycle. With this being complete, you and the drones reproduce, followed by the damaged Spy Drone being tossed into the recycler.

Abbreviations are in use for sanity purposes.

Spoiler: Spy Drone Offspring (click to show/hide)

6 Gen 2 S-1 (Medium, Winged, Improved Sensory, Intelligent)
6 Gen 2 S-2 (M Wing Improved Sensory)
6 Gen 2 S-3 (M Wing Intelligent)
6 Gen 2 S-4 (M Wing)
8 Gen 2 S-5 (Small, Wing, Improved Sensory, Intelligent)
6 Gen 2 S-6  (S Wing Improved Sensory)
6 Gen 2 S-7 (S Wing Intelligent)
6 Gen 2 S-8 (S Wing)

Spoiler: Tech Drone Offspring) (click to show/hide)

8 Gen 2 T-1 (M, Improved Hands, Improved Sensory, Intelligent)
6 Gen 2 T-2 (M, Improved Hands, Intelligent
6 Gen 2 T-3 (M, True Hands, Improved Sensory, Intelligent)
6 Gen 2 T-4  (M, True Hands, Intelligent)
3 Gen 2 T-5 (Large, Improved Hands, Improved Sensory, Intelligent)
3 Gen 2 T-6 (L, Improved Hands, Intelligent)
3 Gen 2 T-7 (L, Improved Sensory, Intelligent)
3 Gen 2 T-8 (L, Intelligent)
3 Gen 2 T-9 (Small, Improved Hands, Improved Sensory, Intelligent)
3 Gen 2 T-10  (S, Improved Hands, Intelligent)
3 Gen 2 T-11 (S, Improved Sensory, Intelligent)
3 Gen 2 T-12 (S, Intelligent)

You spend a portion of the day designing a magnetic shielding system to deflect incoming Human railgun weaponry. It works in theory and on a small scale, but the testing of the large-scale shield to protect the Hive will have to wait for the sat-kill test. The Sporifers have given off their spores and plants are on the way. This is the other stage they can be transplanted in. All remaining larvae have developed.

With this being done, you check in on your Drones and Mechanical Scouts. They all appear to be heavily loaded down with seeds, hard drives, and in a few cases, working Mechanical Repair Drones. The should be home before too much longer.

It is mid-day, and you set about redesigning the Anti-Armor munitions, then work on a Fighter. It will take some time to get it working optimally, but you succeed at creating an absolute bare-bones gunship with room for two soldiers and a single Drone. It's very basic, but has the computer systems needed to maintain the flight, the mini-reactor, and to otherwise maneuver.

[You Are:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

1 Queen Kai (Full) (Wearing Powered AK-AEPS)
1 Level 3 Nurse Drone (Full)
1 Level 2 Navigation/Programming Drone (Full)
1 Level 2 Navigation Drone (Not Hungry)
1 Level 2 Tech Drone (Not Hungry) (Wearing AEPS)
1 Level 1 Digging Drone (Not Hungry)
17 Digging Drones (Not Hungry, Gen 1)
15 Basic Drones (Not  Hungry)
17 Basic Drones (Not Hungry, Gen 1) (Wearing EPS)
7 Basic Drones (Almost Full, Gen 1)
4 Flying Drone (Almost Full, Gen 1)
1 Soldier (Gen 1)
1 Soldier (Not Hungry, Gen 1) (Wearing AEPS)
2 Flying Soldier (Gen 1)
1 Flying Soldier (Not Hungry, Gen 1) (Wearing AEPS)
1 Flying Soldier (Not Hungry) (Wearing AEPS)
3 Basic Soldier (Not Hungry) (Wearing AEPS)
1 Predator Drone (Gen 1)
20 Laid Drone Eggs (Gen 1)
10 Laid Soldier Eggs (Gen 1)
12 Laid Flying Drone Eggs (Gen 1)
10 Laid Soldier Eggs (Gen 1)
10 Laid Flying Soldier Eggs (Gen 1)
2 Laid Predator Eggs (Gen 1)
2 Laid Nurse Egg (Gen 1)
2 Laid Commander Egg (Gen 1)
2 Queen Flowers (Active / Recovering.1) )
9 Recovering.2 Underground Flowers
4 Pollinated Aboveground Flowers (Cold-Tolerant)
68 Immature Aboveground Flowers (Cold-Tolerant)
38 Immature Competing Queen's Flowers
A Mechanical Flying Scout of Human Origin
8 Mechanical Flying Light Scout
1 Mechanical Flying Soldier

Your Fertilized Eggs

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

6 Gen 2 S-1 (Medium, Winged, Improved Sensory, Intelligent)
6 Gen 2 S-2 (M Wing Improved Sensory)
6 Gen 2 S-3 (M Wing Intelligent)
6 Gen 2 S-4 (M Wing)
8 Gen 2 S-5 (Small, Wing, Improved Sensory, Intelligent)
6 Gen 2 S-6  (S Wing Improved Sensory)
6 Gen 2 S-7 (S Wing Intelligent)
6 Gen 2 S-8 (S Wing)
8 Gen 2 T-1 (M, Improved Hands, Improved Sensory, Intelligent)
6 Gen 2 T-2 (M, Improved Hands, Intelligent
6 Gen 2 T-3 (M, True Hands, Improved Sensory, Intelligent)
6 Gen 2 T-4  (M, True Hands, Intelligent)
3 Gen 2 T-5 (Large, Improved Hands, Improved Sensory, Intelligent)
3 Gen 2 T-6 (L, Improved Hands, Intelligent)
3 Gen 2 T-7 (L, Improved Sensory, Intelligent)
3 Gen 2 T-8 (L, Intelligent)
3 Gen 2 T-9 (Small, Improved Hands, Improved Sensory, Intelligent)
3 Gen 2 T-10  (S, Improved Hands, Intelligent)
3 Gen 2 T-11 (S, Improved Sensory, Intelligent)
3 Gen 2 T-12 (S, Intelligent)

Your Nest
Location - the general area of Here
Outdoors - Very Hard to Detect by Casual Scans

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Insulated Improved Non-Reflective Agricultural Earthworks with Four Flowers of Life and two Seeds (Automated)
Improved Sensory Array
Level 2 Defensive Earthworks: Camouflaged Heavy Assault Armor Plating, Internal Fortifications, Medium Pulse Cannon, 7x Anti-Air Double-Barreled Rail Cannons, Heavy Artillery Emplacement
Open Dead Lava Tube, concealing a Partially Constructed Multi-Vehicle Launch System
{Open Dead Lava Tube}
{Covered Trap Pit}

Indoors

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Improved Defensive Earthworks: Camouflaged Heavy Assault Armor Plating, Internal Fortifications, Security Interlocks
Insulated Reinforced Queen's Chamber with Two Queen's Flowers and Eggs (Automated)
Insulated Improved Flower Chamber with Nine Flowers of Life (Automated)
Insulated Level 2 Improved Industrial Technology Lab with an Improved Automated Weapons Facility, a EPS Suit Assembler, a Universal Parts Assembler, a Vehicle Bay, & a Molecular Assembler
Insulated Improved Human Containment Lab Subsection (Sleeping Pads, Chairs, Water Supply, Disconnected Computer Network)
Insulated Improved Food Synthesizer with a Biorecycler and Bacteria Vat (Unit of Food & Unit of Human Food Templates)
Insulated Fusion Reactor Chamber
Insulated Improved Heating Tunnel: Internal Ventilation System
Reinforced Expansion Tunnels to Queen's Chamber
Queen's Chamber with 38 Competing Flowers (Deep, Automated)
Improved Defensive Cave-In Tunnel 1 (Improved Internal Fortifications, Long Drop)
Constructed Tunnel to Ice
Constructed Tunnel to MVLS
Partially Constructed Multiple Vehicle Launch Pad (Improved Security Interlocks)

You Own

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

A Bunch of Spare Parts: (Computer, Mechanical, Fusion Reactor, Weaponry)
2 Charged Portable Batteries
Point Defense Laser / Smelter
A Lot of Damaged to Intact Metal Plating
Many Computer Parts / Wiring
1 Diagnostic Computer
A Kinetic Energy Penetration Warhead
1 Telemetry Computer
Display Panels
4 Dormant Flowers
1 Dormant Cold-Tolerant Flower
Relevant Tools
A Queen-Sized Heavy Energy Machine Gun
3 Soldier-Sized Heavy Pumped Energy Tribarrel
1 Tech Drone-Sized Heavy Pumped Energy Tribarrel
10 Human-Sized Mid-Caliber Assault Projectile Weaponry
5 Human-Sized One-Shot Rockets
3 Human-Sized Grenade Launchers
59 Human-Sized Recoil-less Low-Caliber Handheld Projectile Weaponry
Human Ammunition
40 Human Gas Grenades
A Soldier-Sized Pressurized Acid Blaster
4 Soldier-Sized Pumped Pulse Blasters
16 Drone-Sized Laser Cutters
3/8 Earthen Insulation Materials
Glass Insulation Materials
Functional Greenhouse Glass
5/8 Ship Thermal Insulation
Iron / Iron Pellets
Water / Ice
Carbon
Nitrogen
Calcium
Phosphorus
Potassium
Oxygen
Silicon
Sulfur
Sodium
Chlorine
Perchloric Acid
Sulfuric Acid
Scrap Metal
Scrap Plastic
A Barrel of Improved Fertilizer
2 Canister of Queen's Pollen
6 Canisters of Pollen Fuel (Underground Variant)
1 Seed of Life
1 Stripped Human Landship
5 Human Corpses
A Bunch of Human Junk
3 Human Biological Testing Computer
2 Human Mechanical Repair Drone
6 Sacks of Human Seeds

Your food supplies are:
6 Units of Food
10 Units of SQSF

Your food requirements per Hunger Level are:
Drones - 1/10 of a Unit of Food
Soldiers - 4/10 of a Unit of Food
Levels 1-4 - A Unit of Food
Queen - A Unit of Food / Reabsorb 20 Eggs
Level 5 - 2 Units of Food

Your prisoners are:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

1 Tall Human Female With Gold Shoulder Decorations (Queen)
3 Medium Human Males with Red Crossed Arm Decorations (Tech Drone)
1 Large Human Male "Stampy" with Barcodes (Can Listen, Can Come Kind Of Near To Almost Talking)
10 Large Human Males with Barcodes (Soldier)
1 Medium Human Female (Drone)
8 Medium Human Females (Drone)
5 Medium Human Males (Drone)
10 Weak Humans (Drone)

Your Inventions (new section, correct me if I missed anything)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

AI Virus
An Entertaining Strategy Game (Beta)
Pressurized Acid Blaster
Pumped Pulse Blasters
Laser Cutters
Heavy Energy Machine Gun
Heavy Energy Tribarrel
Battery
Mechanical Scout Drone (Light Variant, Killer Variant)
Environmental Protection Suit (Armored, Powered, and Anti-Kinetic Variants)
Magnetohydrodynamic Propulsion System
Light Ferrofluid Railgun Cannon
Medium Pulse Cannon
Stealth Scout Fighter
Food Synthesizer
Fusion Reactor
Various Computers
Sensory Array
Heavy Artillery
Cluster Munitions (Anti-personnel, Chemical, Incendiary)
Magnetic Shield

Your Planets:
Unnamed Yellow Dwarf Sun [Sol]
Unnamed Iron-Rich Cold Partially Terraformed Planet, 4th from Unnamed Sun [Mars]
- Unnamed Moon [Phobos]
- Unnamed Moon [Demios]

[10ebbor10]

 FWe need to check out the local surroundings again. The we need to upgrade our automated farm to hold 20 plants and transplant to fill it up.  Then we need to finish thelainch system.
 We still need to design better rockets and. Descent drop ships.

Also, our physic field can kill humans,, we need to see if we can create aphsyhic weapon.

And give the flowers their seeds.

[Ross Vernal]

Our current automated capacity is 80 Outdoor Flowers, 80 Indoor Flowers, and 4 Queen's Flowers. Your estimate as to the efficiency of the automation is a 25% increase in production, by the way, so 1 cycle with current supplies will result in 5 Units of Royal Jelly and Queen's Pollen as well as 85 Units of Food and Pollen. Pretty much, the food problem is solved.

The Digging Drones and all unattached Drones are working on things still, but Your leadership and the Tech Drone will certainly be helpful now and vital later on.

[andy_t_roo]

we need to dig a couple of chambers a couple of hundred m down; that is all we need to do to protect us from a kinetic strike.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_depth - the depth of penatration is related to the ratio of densitites; if the shell is twice the density of the armor, then a 1m shell will penetrate 2m armor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_bunker_buster - the largest depth mentioned is 46m; assuming that our armor is as much improved vs kinetic strikes as concrete vs nuclear assisted kinetic, then 200m is all that is needed to protect us.

furthermore, if we have 2 layers of armor, with a small gap between, =======, then that will encourage the projectile to shatter on impact, meaning that shells with sufficient kinetic energy to overcome the armor won't penatrate well. ([size=78%]http://ares.jsc.nasa.gov/ares/hvit/basic.cfm[/size])

basically, we have a layer of armor near the surface. 50m down have a whole floor with both the roof and floor armored, and we will be invulnerable to any single kinetic strike. even multiple impacts at the same point would have issues, due to angular differences, and the 50m of marian dirt re-filling the hole between the upper and lower armor layers.

Any single strike capable of getting through to us would do extreme devistation on the surface, so i am quite sure would not be done'
Add in (semi-)effective railgun projectile deflection, to prevent targeting of weakened areas of the armor, and you'll note that there is a good reason the "starship troopers" ended up in hand-to-hand combat on a planets surface.

[Carp Slayer]

we need to dig a couple of chambers a couple of hundred m down; that is all we need to do to protect us from a kinetic strike.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_depth - the depth of penatration is related to the ratio of densitites; if the shell is twice the density of the armor, then a 1m shell will penetrate 2m armor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_bunker_buster - the largest depth mentioned is 46m; assuming that our armor is as much improved vs kinetic strikes as concrete vs nuclear assisted kinetic, then 200m is all that is needed to protect us.

furthermore, if we have 2 layers of armor, with a small gap between, =======, then that will encourage the projectile to shatter on impact, meaning that shells with sufficient kinetic energy to overcome the armor won't penatrate well. ([size=78%]http://ares.jsc.nasa.gov/ares/hvit/basic.cfm[/size])

basically, we have a layer of armor near the surface. 50m down have a whole floor with both the roof and floor armored, and we will be invulnerable to any single kinetic strike. even multiple impacts at the same point would have issues, due to angular differences, and the 50m of marian dirt re-filling the hole between the upper and lower armor layers.

Any single strike capable of getting through to us would do extreme devistation on the surface, so i am quite sure would not be done'
Add in (semi-)effective railgun projectile deflection, to prevent targeting of weakened areas of the armor, and you'll note that there is a good reason the "starship troopers" ended up in hand-to-hand combat on a planets surface.

A mass drop is basically a gigantic hunk of dense material the size of an asteroid.