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[nopil3os]

i dug a long curved path to the candy spire, carved fortifications in the wall, built some bridges and then breached the candy. i stationed my archers on the other side and was very happy that they (or some lone elite ones of them) managed to kill the clowns with ease. i have their numbers down from ca 120 to about 90.
the problem is: despite being stationed in a HUGE ammunition stockpile i built next to the fortifications  before the gate of doom, my archers seem to have run out of ammo.
what can be done? why don't they restock their quivers?

[Maklak]

If they see an enemy and have no ammo, they want to hit it in melee. The solution (search for pillboxes) is to include raised bridges behind the first line of fortifications to block their view. They will 'disnegage' and restock their ammo. After that open the bridge again and let the slaughter continue.

[Loud Whispers]

Or just make them go off duty to collect bolts. I'm surprised the clowns are being that patient for you, it's rather respectful really.

"No no, go get some more bolts, we've waited since world gen for this opportunity, a few more seconds can't hurt."

[nopil3os]

Or just make them go off duty to collect bolts. I'm surprised the clowns are being that patient for you, it's rather respectful really.

"No no, go get some more bolts, we've waited since world gen for this opportunity, a few more seconds can't hurt."

yeah well i thought, at least the ones with "deadly dust" and stuff would be.. well deadly. but so far i have not a single injured dwarf. a bit disappointing. maybe i should (really) open the gates and let the fortress go down with a bang.

as for drawbridges: unfortunately it's a bit late for that now. i'm currently carving a giant cave in trap above them.

what i don't know: the wiki says what to expect (only one big wave) and elsewhere, contrary to that, that clowns continue to wander into hfs from the edge. so if i wipe out the big wave, is hfs empty? can i settle there then? or will i continuously have to secure the gate?

[caddybear]

What will happen is: you will still get demons from the edges like wildlife. You can totally settle there if you wall it in, but they'll keep coming in small numbers. Well smaller than the massive wave at the breach. So yeah, until the construction is done, you will have attacking demons.

[Tabbyman]

If they see an enemy and have no ammo, they want to hit it in melee. The solution (search for pillboxes) is to include raised bridges behind the first line of fortifications to block their view. They will 'disnegage' and restock their ammo. After that open the bridge again and let the slaughter continue.

Oh god. And I was going to attempt pretty much the same thing without the bridges and fail. Sure glad I browsed the forums...

What will happen is: you will still get demons from the edges like wildlife. You can totally settle there if you wall it in, but they'll keep coming in small numbers. Well smaller than the massive wave at the breach. So yeah, until the construction is done, you will have attacking demons.

Yeah, I found this out and managed to kill off the ones that came through with a single swordmaster (who proceeded to melt to death or something). Had sealed up the first ones and wanted to plug up the hole to get to the candy. It seemed like they pathed in instantly too, so I figure they don't just wander down there unless there's no path.

[ThatAussieGuy]

What will happen is: you will still get demons from the edges like wildlife. You can totally settle there if you wall it in, but they'll keep coming in small numbers. Well smaller than the massive wave at the breach. So yeah, until the construction is done, you will have attacking demons.

This isn't _quite_ accurate.  Demons will spawn on the map edge, but only in a single group of roughly 3-5 and they'll eventually exit the map after a while if nothing happens.  Pretty much like surface and cave wildlife.  Killing the initial Clown Car rush of 40-odd demons is the real challenge.  The survivors of it are what generally give you an unhealthy roaming population in the HFS.

[Person]

Of course, unless they fixed it only the initial wave of demons can fly.

[ThatAussieGuy]

Of course, unless they fixed it only the initial wave of demons can fly.

Actually, they spawn right beneath the breach and 'magically' all path upwards, regardless of flying ability.  The Clown Car would be a LOT less threatening otherwise. (You usually only see one flying type in the random mix of demon types you get)

[Tirion]

And up to 120 might spawn when you breach, too.

Also, fun fact: FBs spawn in HFS once it's discovered, like any cavern layer. And they are hostile to the locals.

[crazysheep]

And up to 120 might spawn when you breach, too.

Also, fun fact: FBs spawn in HFS once it's discovered, like any cavern layer. And they are hostile to the locals.

"Place your bets, place your bets! Forgotten beast made of ice, or snow spirit?"

[reilwin]

what can be done? why don't they restock their quivers?

Have them patrol between an ammo stockpile and your firing range. Once they move out of line of sight of the clowns they should realize they need to pick up ammo.

[ThatAussieGuy]

Also, fun fact: FBs spawn in HFS once it's discovered, like any cavern layer. And they are hostile to the locals.

I don't think this is true - Or at least I never saw it happen.  Could very well have been pure RNG luck on my part

[nopil3os]

40-odd?

about 130 in my case.
the archers got almost 40 until they ran out of ammo and i out of patience.
since the clowns were all lined up pretty nicely in the "shooting range", i collapsed a bit of mountain in the room above which breached through the floor and killed all of them.

so i guess: initial wave survived with not a single casualty on my side

edit: are clowns butcherable?

[nopil3os]

Oh god. And I was going to attempt pretty much the same thing without the bridges and fail. Sure glad I browsed the forums...

you're welcome
and i'd say it can totally be done (without the bridges) if the stockpile is out of sight so they DO go get new ammo.
i had 3 squads in rotation with the first being my main archer squad (4 elites, rest fairly good) and the other 2 entirely untrained peasants and fishery workers. the archers were 8 tiles away from the clowns and didn't get hit once by anything deadly.