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[Insalubrious]

So I designed a couple wells in my soon-to-be PERFECT DWARF FORTRESS, and decided I wanted to move the wells.  Now I'm stuck with some stupid 1-tile cannel spaces that I can't delete and can't rebuild wells on.  Is this a bug, or is it fixable?

[Garthor]

It's not a bug and it's not fixable until wall rebuilding and channel refilling are implemented.

[Insalubrious]

That would be absolutely amazing and I see no reason not to do it.

[Captain Mayday]

I believe these reqs are quite high priority as they are one of the more annoying missing features in the alpha.

Perhaps they're even core? I forget.

[Mechanoid]

For now though, you could turn them into 1-tile pools of water. Possibly even take a aquatic creature and place it in there sort of like a fish pond.

[Aquillion]

quote:Originally posted by Mayday:
<STRONG>I believe these reqs are quite high priority as they are one of the more annoying missing features in the alpha.

Perhaps they're even core? I forget.</STRONG>

They seem to be the most commonly-requested feature (or at least the most commonly-mentioned one), so I'd assume they're fairly high priority by now...

But there's still the problem of dealing with the various exploits rewalling would make available.  Players could wall up their fortress when an enemy appears, for instance; most opponents wouldn't be able to hurt you at all if you did that.  If they used mushrooms for wood, the player could even wall themselves into the fortress completely...  with a clever enough system of floodgates and channels, they could set things up so they're not open to anything anywhere (except possibly in their well) and are entirely self-sufficient.

Perhaps rebuilt walls could be only restored to partially mined-out status, and most opponents given the ability to just hit such damaged walls until they break.

[Gedsaro]

Well, rewalled places should maybe be made destruckedable or, your opponents could have tunnelers or somthing? of course they could really $%^! up your fortress like that... but then again you'd have rewallng so...

[ August 18, 2006: Message edited by: Gedsaro ]

[JT]

I'd be happy enough with tunnelling enemies, as long as they were smart enough not to bring the ceiling down on themselves.  Demons, hulks, sieging humans, oh my.

I figure allowing enemies to tunnel would be a much better option than causing the walls to be damaged by default.  You can't detail a damaged wall, which means the damaged wall would remain a permanent eyesore.  Perhaps the game could distinguish between constructed walls and non-constructed walls purely in terms of gameplay, however: if someone blocks off the front entrance of their mine by building a solid wall, sieging humans should be able to recognise that it's an unnatural reconstruction and smash it down.  So on for other foes.

[ August 18, 2006: Message edited by: JT ]

[Toady One]

It would probably be easiest to just create a smooth wall when they are done building, one that you can mine again.  The exploits will be handled when they are handled -- creating balance at every stage this early on would stifle development, and also be pointless in many cases, though I'll try not to screw up the game for too long too often.