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ignatzami

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New Stone/Block Interaction Question
« on: June 07, 2012, 02:37:12 pm »

With the new hauling changes when you craft stone blocks out of a boulder you get multiple blocks.

Can anyone confirm, is this the case with clay?
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Re: New Stone/Block Interaction Question
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2012, 02:41:25 pm »

Here's the Clay Brick interaction. But I don't have any experience with the raws.

[REACTION:MAKE_CLAY_BRICKS]
   [NAME:make clay bricks]
   [BUILDING:KILN:CUSTOM_B]
   [REAGENT:clay:1:BOULDER:NONE:NONE:NONE]
      [HAS_MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:FIRED_MAT]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:BLOCKS:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:clay:FIRED_MAT]
   [FUEL]
   [SKILL:POTTERY]
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Re: New Stone/Block Interaction Question
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2012, 03:33:07 pm »

I don't know about clay blocks, but glass blocks reaction only creates 1 block.
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Re: New Stone/Block Interaction Question
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2012, 03:59:49 pm »

One boulder in, one block out.
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Re: New Stone/Block Interaction Question
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2012, 04:00:58 pm »

Not that it matters much since clay is for all intents and purposes infinite, but it would be nice to get more bricks from one lump.
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Re: New Stone/Block Interaction Question
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2012, 04:06:58 pm »

I think you can make the change you want for yourself by changing this line:

[PRODUCT:100:1:BLOCKS:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:clay:FIRED_MAT]

to read:

[PRODUCT:100:3:BLOCKS:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:clay:FIRED_MAT]

That would give you 3 bricks per lump of clay.
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Re: New Stone/Block Interaction Question
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2012, 04:47:43 pm »

I think you can make the change you want for yourself by changing this line:

[PRODUCT:100:1:BLOCKS:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:clay:FIRED_MAT]

to read:

[PRODUCT:100:3:BLOCKS:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:clay:FIRED_MAT]

That would give you 3 bricks per lump of clay.

Can you break this line apart for me? The Wiki doesn't cover this yet.

I assume it's PRODUCT: (Chance of success?) : (# items received) : ? : (Needs an item to work) : (Item needed) : ?

Also, thanks!

My frustration is that while clay is effectively limitless it's still a pain to haul it from the collection site, to the stockpile, to the kilns
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Re: New Stone/Block Interaction Question
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2012, 05:19:14 pm »

That's it, give or take. To be honest I don't know a ton about editing raws, but I found this from the appropriate wiki page.

[PRODUCT:<probability>:<quantity>:<item token>:<material token>]

Here's what each part means:

PRODUCT: identify the type of action as a PRODUCT (as opposed to some other interaction like a decoration on the item)
<probability>: exactly what it says on the tin
<quantity>: exactly what it says on the tin
<item token>: set the item type to be BLOCK
<material token>:get the physical properties of the bricks from the material data for clay as a fired material (as opposed to raw clay lumps)

Edit: It's important to understand that
Code: [Select]
GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:clay:FIRED_MAT is the entire material token.
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Re: New Stone/Block Interaction Question
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2012, 06:18:17 pm »

My frustration is that while clay is effectively limitless it's still a pain to haul it from the collection site, to the stockpile, to the kilns
I solved this in Mazemerchants by putting the four kilns on either side of the clay stockpile, which was immediately adjacent to the five-tile fire-clay collection point.  When the stockpile filled, they kept gathering, and quantum stockpiling the stuff in the collection zone. *shrug*
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Re: New Stone/Block Interaction Question
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2012, 07:30:44 pm »

My frustration is that while clay is effectively limitless it's still a pain to haul it from the collection site, to the stockpile, to the kilns
I solved this in Mazemerchants by putting the four kilns on either side of the clay stockpile, which was immediately adjacent to the five-tile fire-clay collection point.  When the stockpile filled, they kept gathering, and quantum stockpiling the stuff in the collection zone. *shrug*
That doesn't work so well if you use magma kilns.
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Re: New Stone/Block Interaction Question
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2012, 07:37:00 pm »

My frustration is that while clay is effectively limitless it's still a pain to haul it from the collection site, to the stockpile, to the kilns
I solved this in Mazemerchants by putting the four kilns on either side of the clay stockpile, which was immediately adjacent to the five-tile fire-clay collection point.  When the stockpile filled, they kept gathering, and quantum stockpiling the stuff in the collection zone. *shrug*

In my current fort, which is all above ground, my only collection point is half the map away, on the side of a hill.
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Re: New Stone/Block Interaction Question
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2012, 08:12:04 pm »

For the record, logs only produce a wooden block apiece as well.
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Re: New Stone/Block Interaction Question
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2012, 08:15:12 pm »

Crafting stone blocks at the Mason's workshop is a hardcoded reaction, which was changed in the last release. Clay boulders are not used for this kind of reaction.

My frustration is that while clay is effectively limitless it's still a pain to haul it from the collection site, to the stockpile, to the kilns
I solved this in Mazemerchants by putting the four kilns on either side of the clay stockpile, which was immediately adjacent to the five-tile fire-clay collection point.  When the stockpile filled, they kept gathering, and quantum stockpiling the stuff in the collection zone. *shrug*
That doesn't work so well if you use magma kilns.

Using carts would be a great way to speed things up. In fact, the advantage with using carts to transport clay boulders is the clay collection is stationary, so you can have a permanent system in place.
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Re: New Stone/Block Interaction Question
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2012, 10:09:17 pm »

My frustration is that while clay is effectively limitless it's still a pain to haul it from the collection site, to the stockpile, to the kilns
I solved this in Mazemerchants by putting the four kilns on either side of the clay stockpile, which was immediately adjacent to the five-tile fire-clay collection point.  When the stockpile filled, they kept gathering, and quantum stockpiling the stuff in the collection zone. *shrug*
That doesn't work so well if you use magma kilns.
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Re: New Stone/Block Interaction Question
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2012, 01:43:40 am »

I've yet to figure out how to move a cart over z-levels, otherwise, great idea!!!
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