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Author Topic: Cybrid 5:The Tunnels Of Mars-Game End: Rebel Vittry (Plus Survivor plus scum)  (Read 59210 times)

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Mod: I think Think needs a prod.
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The worst part of all of this is that Shakerag won.

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I think Urist has most of the scenarios covered. I'll try to list them all out, for completeness, though I in no way vouch for the probability of each. Feel free to correct me, I'm sure I'll mess one or more up.
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I'll look it over and try to post again tonight.

PPE: Hah! Guess he wanted to have fun.

PPE2: He was last active yesterday an hour or two before the night ended. I'm sure he'll show up.
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I can't be expected to remember the names of everyone I've tried to stab.

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Urist Imiknorris

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Mod: Would a solo cybrid get a scumchat?
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I don't know how it works. It does.
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YOU CANT NOT HAVE SUSPECTS IN A GAME OF MAFIA

ITS THE WHOLE POINT OF THE GAME
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If Tiruin redirected the lynch, then this means that, and... the Illuminati! Of course!

Urist Imiknorris

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EBWOP: By "solo" I mean "incapable of converting."
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I don't know how it works. It does.
Quote from: Jim Groovester
YOU CANT NOT HAVE SUSPECTS IN A GAME OF MAFIA

ITS THE WHOLE POINT OF THE GAME
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If Tiruin redirected the lynch, then this means that, and... the Illuminati! Of course!

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I'd probably give them one, sure. I enjoy watching people talk to themselves.
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I LIVE!

First of, my claim: I am an Imperial Doctor and a Pilot. The Imperial Doctor is the only game-relevant part, I anticipate that the Pilot part is for something akin to the twist in the first game. I protected Toaster the first night and Dariush the second night. I haven't gotten any messages about last night from GlyphGryph, however, so I can't confirm if anything's actually happened or not or whether I succeeded or anything. I presume a lack of response means my action went through and did nothing. That said, I DID get a message when that happened on Toaster.

Mod: Mind checking if you have any PMs waiting for me?

Until I hear back from GlyphGryph, I'd like to wait on giving more opinions.

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If it scares people into posting, then yes.

If they end up lynched because they didn't post, oh well. Too bad for them. Maybe they should've tried posting.
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Urist Imiknorris

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Mod: Three questions:

Can there be multiple cybrid factions? (I'm guessing no, since one of your responses entioned "the cybrid team," but better safe than sorry)
If an Enforcer tried to kill, but was converted by cybrids the same night, would the kill still occur?
If someone is successfully protected from a kill, are they made aware of such?

First of, my claim: I am an Imperial Doctor and a Pilot. The Imperial Doctor is the only game-relevant part, I anticipate that the Pilot part is for something akin to the twist in the first game.
What does your PM say you can do with regard to the pilot ability?
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I don't know how it works. It does.
Quote from: Jim Groovester
YOU CANT NOT HAVE SUSPECTS IN A GAME OF MAFIA

ITS THE WHOLE POINT OF THE GAME
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If Tiruin redirected the lynch, then this means that, and... the Illuminati! Of course!

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I'm competent at piloting things 'from Skyhawks to mining Hercs', implying I can fly most any standard vehicle.
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If it scares people into posting, then yes.

If they end up lynched because they didn't post, oh well. Too bad for them. Maybe they should've tried posting.
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Dariush

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Either you're the last cybrid or Dariush and zombie are the last two.
Wrong. Think would have to be the third cybrid because me and ZU gave independent imperial inspects on him, which is impossible, because the game would be over by now.

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And Hapah. You can safely throw out any combination which doesn't involve either me or Toaster as cybrid, due to our clashing claims. Actually, you can also throw out anything that involves me as cybrid due to EXTREME amount of stuff that has to go wrong for me to be cybrid.

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Can there be multiple cybrid factions? (I'm guessing no, since one of your responses entioned "the cybrid team," but better safe than sorry)
Only in that the Metagens kind of count as their own faction, I suppose. I was thinking of playing with such a mechanic sometime in the future, but as for now the rules disallow two 'real' cybrid teams - simply a cybrid team with possible defectors.

If an Enforcer tried to kill, but was converted by cybrids the same night, would the kill still occur?
No - he would lost his kill after being converted, and thus be no longer able to complete it, since converts happen first.

If someone is successfully protected from a kill, are they made aware of such?
At the moment, I limit such knowledge to people performing the actions. So the protector and the killer would know something was up, but not the victim. This is currently how it works, anyway - I really should add some stuff to the additional rules section, and probably have a go in the discussion thread about the best way to handle it. (Note, though, that the killer would only know their kill failed, not why.)
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Right then, let's bottle this up.

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What can we be sure of?  UI is a blocker, almost certainly; since there are no cybrid blocking roles in the OP, he's almost certainly a rebel.  Hapah is a snowman.

How to resolve the incongruous claims?  I believe I have a solution.  Let's look at the OP a second:

The Cybrids have a standard mafia night kill they can use in place of their regular action (with the exceptions of passive or use whenever actions like the Duplicator, Goad, and Ghost). If the Hunter/Killer uses a standard night kill, it becomes a double kill (and if there's another cybrid around, they can obviously target two people.) If the cybrids attempt to kill a sympathizer, they will be offered the option of turning that sympathizer to the cybrid faction instead. However, that individual would no longer turn up as town on investigations.


Here's my theory.  Dariush and Tiruin were the original cybrid team, with no converts.  ZU was a cybrid sympathizer, probably still with an inspect.  N1 they killed obolisk.  N2 Dariush tried to kill ZU, but ended up converting him instead.  Dariush, given his knowledge from ZU's inspects, tries to finger me while backing up his claim as a zealot by claiming a conversion on a known Imperial.  I think his initial lack of alignment claim, while a good idea, was a bit of cover to see what crap he could fish out.


So, question to Think:  Did you start Imperial or Rebel?  If Imperial, did you get any notification of a conversion attempt? 

On a similar note, UI:  Did you get any notice of my conversion attempt N1?
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HMR stands for Hazardous Materials Requisition, not Horrible Massive Ruination, though I can understand how one could get confused.
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RL Happened.

Will try to read and post within an hour or two.
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N2 Dariush tried to kill ZU, but ended up converting him instead.
What.

WHAT.

...what. Are you even aware that what you describe doesn't fit into any set of rules even remotely connected to mafia and this game specifically?
I think his initial lack of alignment claim, while a good idea, was a bit of cover to see what crap he could fish out.
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Dariush:  Maybe you should actually read the post and the rule I quoted?
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HMR stands for Hazardous Materials Requisition, not Horrible Massive Ruination, though I can understand how one could get confused.
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