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[zombie urist]

Since there's really no other explanation for obolisk's death than Enforcer!Think killing him, I disagree. The cybrids couldn't have gotten him, as Tiruin had to be converted N1, unless you're suggesting multiple cybrid factions.

What? You do realize that Tiruin could have started out as a cybrid? That's why after he died there was no NK.

I'm going to believe Dariush because I have a positive inspect on him. Toaster

[Urist Imiknorris]

But if Tiruin was the starting cybrid, why are we still here? The game would already be over with an Imperial victory - Tiruin would have been the only cybrid, and he couldn't convert.

[zombie urist]

Because there's another cybrid? Because some sides still have killing roles?

[Toaster]

What if there were two starter cybrids with a single convert?  A conversion role isn't guaranteed, so there could be multiple starting ones (especially if one is defective.)


GG:  Can there be more than one starting Cybrid?

[Toaster]

Also, keep in mind this:

Night will last 48 hours. Since we're getting into the home stretch now, I'd like to be clear: if there is a possibility of victory, it will only be processed come morning, unless no game changing night actions remain, in which case it will be processed come end of day.

If Dariush is the last cybrid, he's lynched, and I convert someone in the night, Rebels win assuming Think isn't a killer (or I convert him.)

[GlyphGryph]

GG:  Can there be more than one starting Cybrid?

I don't see why not. It would certainly make things more difficult to balance, though. There's no rule against it, anyway, though it would defy convention.

[Urist Imiknorris]

If Dariush is the last cybrid, he's lynched, and I convert someone in the night, Rebels win assuming Think isn't a killer (or I convert him.)

No shit Sherlock, which is why my plan calls for you converting Think tonight. The important thing is that Dariush isn't the last cybrid. If he was, zombie wouldn't have an imperial inspect on him. Either you're the last cybrid or Dariush and zombie are the last two.

[Toaster]

So how do you lose if Dariush and Zombie are cybrids and we lynch Dariush?  I convert Think, you block Zombie, D4 we lynch Zombie, N4 I convert Hapah, everybody (living) wins.

[Toaster]

Wait, I don't even need to convert Hapah- he's already Rebel. Explain this statement:

Lynch Dariush, block Toaster

Strengths:
-Guarantees cybrid loss

Weaknesses:
-Think is a likely enforcer
-Guarantees Imperial victory, my loss

[Urist Imiknorris]

It didn't occur to me until after typing that plan that zombie would have to be cybrid for Dariush to be cybrid. I was focused on dealing with both you and Dariush at the same time, which would inevitably lead to an imperial victory because of Think (yeah yeah, I know that he hasn't claimed, but my money is still on him being an enforcer).

Here's the problem with your suggestion: If Dariush isn't cybrid, then you are, meaning that you can't make Think a rebel. This means that Think can (and will if he wants to win) kill a rebel tonight, and when you get lynched tomorrow, Think can kill the other rebel and win for the imperials. I'd rather avoid a victory that doesn't include me. If Think turns out not to be an enforcer, then your suggestion becomes viable. Until then, my vote's on zombie urist.

[zombie urist]

Why do you think he's an enforcer?

[Urist Imiknorris]

I believe the possibility of multiple starting cybrids is remote. In addition, obolisk was lurking hardcore D1 (I can't find any posts from him beyond page 1 [at 50 posts/page]), making him a likely target for a potential vig.

[Hapah]

Urist: I sent in an Overseer post request to GG. It should either say "Hapah the Snowman" or be a picture of Frosty the Snowman, depending on how much fun he wants to have with it, I guess.

Will double-post.

[GlyphGryph]

-Merry Christmas, From Hapah

[Urist Imiknorris]

That's quite the picture.