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[Hapah]

ZU: M'kay. I'm 99% sure it's left first to right last, because it wouldn't make much sense if kills happened before protects and blocks.

Dar: Maybe, just maybe, Tir was an Enforcer who got turned? Maybe Think was an Enforcer who got turned? Maybe Think is, or was, a doctor! There are potential reasons. But hey, I'm just a fucking idiot! What the hell do I know, I'm not a classy motherfucker like you.

[GlyphGryph]

Yeah, actions happen in the order of the arrows.

[Hapah]

Actually, Tir couldn't have been an Enforcer and made it work.

[Dariush]

Dar: Maybe, just maybe, Tir was an Enforcer who got turned?

Uh, so? That would get cybrids the second kill, not prevent it altogether.

Maybe Think was an Enforcer who got turned?

Same here. Second kill.

Maybe Think is, or was, a doctor!

Have you heard about such a thing as Occam's Razor?

Why do you so adamantly refuse to believe Toaster is scum?

[Urist Imiknorris]

ZU: Given that blocks are the second thing in that order, I'd assume it starts with invites, or blocks would be useless.

I need to think about this situation for a bit.

Spoiler: Thinking (click to show/hide)

Claim: Dariush -> Imperial Zealot, Officer
Convert Toaster N1 - success
Unknown Conversion N2 - success

Claim: Toaster -> Rebel Persuader
Convert UI N1 - fail (already rebel)
Convert Dariush N2 - fail (blocked)

It indicates I never really had a chance to talk to him due to interruptions or people around, while I did talk with the N1 target.

Confirmed: I kept him occupied with meaningless small talk every time he tried to slip off or talk to anyone.

More likely liar as of now: Dariush. Who did you convert N2: Hapah or Think?

Mod: Will a persuader/zealot's conversion attempt on an already coaligned player succeed or fail, as seen by the persuader/zealot? Also, there's a typo in the OP - Imperial Officers "cannot not be persuaded."

Toaster: I chose Hapah N1 because his responses to my questioning indicated that he wasn't a rebel, and that I could thus block him without a chance of shooting my team in the foot. N2 I chose you because your activity (specifically, the lack thereof) near the end of D2 seemed odd.

Dariush: Idiot has a point. Wait until Think claims before trying to figure out the NK.

Hapah: Claim.

[GlyphGryph]

Mod: Will a persuader/zealot's conversion attempt on an already coaligned player succeed or fail, as seen by the persuader/zealot? Also, there's a typo in the OP - Imperial Officers "cannot not be persuaded."

Persuader/Zealots never know if the succeeded or failed. The target will only know they were targeted if they were successfully converted. Thus are the rules of the persuaders and zealots!

Also, good catch, hah. "cannot not". Immediately persuaded at game start! But yeah, thats a typo, even if it took me 5 rereads to figure out. Fixing now.

[Dariush]

Also, just to confirm I'm telling the truth: I attempted to convert Think N2. By now he's a guaranteed Imperial. Think, confirm this.

Learn to read.

[zombie urist]

Hapah: How do you know you were blocked if you have no night action?

As I've said earlier, I'm a survivor. I didn't mention, however, that I can also recognize Imp/Rebel symbols and am an Inspector.

N1 I inspected Dariush and he showed Imperial.
N2 I inspected Think and he also is Imperial.
Since inspections come before converts, I'm going to assume that Dariush didn't know Think's alignment.

Spoiler: Current Alignments (click to show/hide)

Dariush (zealot) - Imp (inspect N1, claimed)
Think () - Imp (inspect N2, converted by Dar)
UI (mech/RB) - Rebel (claim)
Toaster (persuader) - Rebel (claim)
Hapah () -

[Toaster]

I just confirmed though GG that I was indeed blocked last night instead of any other sort of flavor interpretation.

Speaking of confirmation, GG:  Does a Defective metagen cybrid get a kill regardless of other role?


Hapah:  Because I want to know why you're not voting him if you're so sure.  Also, claim.


Zombie:  From the OP:

There will be
6 Imperials (or supposed rebels)
5 Rebels (or supposed rebels)

Wildcard and Cybrid players will be pulled from one or the other of these piles.

Per your flavor, are you a supposed rebel or a supposed imperial?

[GlyphGryph]

GG:  Does a Defective metagen cybrid get a kill regardless of other role?

No, they do not get a personal kill unless they are paired with a killing role. However, they are still a member of the cybrid team, and can use the standard cybrid night kill if uncontested.

[zombie urist]

Per your flavor, are you a supposed rebel or a supposed imperial?

Don't know.

[Hapah]

No time

Dar: Humans converted to Cybrids lose their original role, right?

ZU: I got a PM about it

Toaster: Thought I did. Dar.

Claim: I'm a Snowman.

Ask any questions you want, don't think I will be able to post again until after work (~4-5 hours from now)

[Urist Imiknorris]

I was being dumb in my last post.More thinking, hopefully smarter thinking.

Spoiler: Analysis of possibilities (click to show/hide)

-Either Dariush or Toaster is fakeclaiming
--Therefore, it is highly likely that one of the two is cybrid
-Dariush has been claimed Imperial by a claimed survivor, backing up his story
-Survivors inspect as unknown, as do cybrids; possible cybrid fakeclaim
--Possibilities: Dariush+zombie cybrid team; Toaster is cybrid
-zombie claimed survivor D2, after only one chance to convert had occurred
-Possibility of zombie urist as starting cybrid: minimal - Dariush would have no need to fakeclaim if converted N2
-Possibility of Dariush as starting cybrid and zombie as N2 convert from survivor - unknown
--Not enough data to isolate a single possibility

Possible plans:

Spoiler: Lynch Dariush, block Toaster (click to show/hide)

Strengths:
-Guarantees cybrid loss

Weaknesses:
-Think is a likely enforcer
-Guarantees Imperial victory, my loss

Spoiler: Lynch zombie urist, action based on flip (click to show/hide)

Block Dariush if zombie is cybrid, Toaster if zombie is survivor
Dariush converts me if not blocked, Toaster converts Think if not blocked
Strengths:
-Guarantees cybrid loss
-Lets me win

Weaknesses:
-Prevents zombie from winning if he is a survivor

Recommended plan: Lynch zombie urist.

Hapah: Make an overseer post to prove your claim.

[Toaster]

UI:  I think we need to hear from Think first.

[Urist Imiknorris]

Since there's really no other explanation for obolisk's death than Enforcer!Think killing him, I disagree. The cybrids couldn't have gotten him, as Tiruin had to be converted N1, unless you're suggesting multiple cybrid factions.