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[Think0028]

Extend. I protected Dariush, nothing happened, and most importantly I was not notified of any conversion attempt, failed or not.

Mod: It's a long shot if you'll answer me, but if I was an Imperial and a Zealot targeted me, would I be aware of the attempt? I'd imagine since they're talking to me I sure as hell'd notice.

Until I hear otherwise, I have no reason to believe Dariush's claim in the slightest.

[Toaster]

Toaster: What made you change your mind about Dariush's cybrid-ness?

I had a town read on him to start with and I thought my night action failed because he was unconvertable, which fit my incorrect assumption that zealots were unconvertable. (Incorrect in several ways, mostly because I was in fact blocked).  What changed my mind was when he claimed something I knew could not possibly be true and no one claimed anything that could resolve the claim- and indeed, I don't know of anything that could make a convert fail on me.


GG:  Besides a block/guard, is there anything that could make a convert fail on a convertable target?

[Urist Imiknorris]

EXTEND EXTEND EXTEND

WHY?

[Urist Imiknorris]

EBWOP: Think: He already said that there's no message to the persuadee unless the persuasion was successful.

[zombie urist]

Until I hear otherwise, I have no reason to believe Dariush's claim in the slightest.

Why are you choosing to believe Toaster's claim over Dariush's?

[Think0028]

Ah, okay. Unvote, then. The vote was based on the assumption that I would notice someone trying to persuade me. More in a bit. The Extend request stays.

[Think0028]

Toaster: Wait a minute. Are you saying that both Dariush and Tiruin have/had kills originally? If so, why weren't there two kills the first night? If not, how could Dariush kill ZU the first night? We know that Tiruin had a kill, he was a Hunter//Killer. What you're saying only makes sense if the Cybrid team has a kill as a whole that one of them executes. They don't, though, do they?

[GlyphGryph]

That's 3 extends, we'll take this until Monday.

Mod: It's a long shot if you'll answer me, but if I was an Imperial and a Zealot targeted me, would I be aware of the attempt? I'd imagine since they're talking to me I sure as hell'd notice.

You would not. They are quite subtle. Even if you were converted, you would not know who done it.

GG:  Besides a block/guard, is there anything that could make a convert fail on a convertable target?

Companions specifically protect from conversions.

Day will end in roughly 72 hours. No extends remain.

[Toaster]

Toaster: Wait a minute. Are you saying that both Dariush and Tiruin have/had kills originally? If so, why weren't there two kills the first night? If not, how could Dariush kill ZU the first night? We know that Tiruin had a kill, he was a Hunter//Killer. What you're saying only makes sense if the Cybrid team has a kill as a whole that one of them executes. They don't, though, do they?

No?  Let me quote it again:

The Cybrids have a standard mafia night kill they can use in place of their regular action (with the exceptions of passive or use whenever actions like the Duplicator, Goad, and Ghost). If the Hunter/Killer uses a standard night kill, it becomes a double kill (and if there's another cybrid around, they can obviously target two people.) If the cybrids attempt to kill a sympathizer, they will be offered the option of turning that sympathizer to the cybrid faction instead. However, that individual would no longer turn up as town on investigations.

I was referring to said kill.

Also, no he wasn't.  Tiruin was a Hunter//Goad, which is immune to actions.

[Urist Imiknorris]

Think:

Toaster: Wait a minute. Are you saying that both Dariush and Tiruin have/had kills originally? If so, why weren't there two kills the first night? If not, how could Dariush kill ZU the first night? We know that Tiruin had a kill, he was a Hunter//Killer. What you're saying only makes sense if the Cybrid team has a kill as a whole that one of them executes. They don't, though, do they?

Tiruin was a Hunter//Goad+Metagen//Defective, and as such the only kill was the cybrid factional. Toaster claims that Dariush tried to kill zombie N2, not N1. And yes, the cybrid team do have a mafiakill.


Please explain this:
Dariush was gunning for zombie all of yesterday. Zombie claimed survivor, which would make the lynching even easier. Dariush would have every reason not to kill the effortless lynch who he had already been trying to get lynched, as leaving him alive would be tantamount to giving himself a day off. Why, then, would he try to do so?

[Think0028]

Shit I need to read the rules more closely.

[zombie urist]

Ok I hate to do this but I need a replacement since I'm leaving for vacation tomorrow.

After thinking about it some more, here's what I propose we do:
Lynch Dariush.
If Dariush is an Imperial Zealot:

• UI blocks Toaster
• Lynch Toaster tomorrow

If Dariush is not an Imperial Zealot:

• Toaster converts Think

[Dariush]

Thanks, ZU. What we really needed was for someone to explicitly paint himself as scum. YOU GOT A FUCKING INSPECT ON ME, YOU DUMBFUCKING PIECE OF EYEFUCKING SHIT. There's nothing that can fuck up an inspect attempt. And why would you vote someone YOU KNOW FOR ABSOLUTELY SURE IS FUCKING TOWN?! Because you're scum, duh.

[Urist Imiknorris]

Because you're scum, duh.

?

Otherwise, you're right and ZU is stupid.

[Think0028]

I believe the extend's gone through, but I do believe that Toaster should hang instead of Dariush. ZU proposing to lynch Dariush makes no sense in this context. Why the switch, ZU?