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[Urist Imiknorris]

Questions for the mod:
-Are Metagens valid starting cybrids, or can they only be created through conversion?
-What would happen to a Cybrid Sympathizer in the event that the cybrids are wiped out?

[GlyphGryph]

Questions for the mod:
-Are Metagens valid starting cybrids, or can they only be created through conversion?

They are technically valid starting roles, though balance purposes would obviously limit the ways they could be used if so. Like many of the other cybrid standards, there being a single cybrid converter at game start is only convention - many other options are possible.

What would happen to a Cybrid Sympathizer in the event that the cybrids are wiped out?

They would lose. I would assume, should they continue playing, they would act out of spite and make their prime goal the insured destruction of all other parties.... but who knows? The game would probably either be over then, or not last much longer anyway.

[Dariush]

ZU, for fuck's sake, just die already. If you were survivor, you wouldn't vote someone you think is town without definite cooperation from scum. There were not enough cybrids remaining for a succesful bandwagon, and you didn't know for a fact I was Imperial. Oh wait, you did, because you are a fucking cybrid. I don't see the point of your move, except to convince everyone you're a survivor and not a cybrid (and fail miserably in that).

[Tiruin]

Surprise//Disgust//Doubt//Disbelief//Shock//Curses//Bah.

I hate you all.

Especially you, Prometheus. [EXPLETIVE] you.

[Toaster]

I'd like to apologize for my craptacular participation yesterday.


I'm thinking it's mass claim time, considering there are potentially two cybrids out there.  Any objections?


Hapah needs to learn how to bus better.


Dariush:

There were not enough cybrids remaining for a succesful bandwagon, and you didn't know for a fact I was Imperial. Oh wait, you did, because you are a fucking cybrid.

This doesn't jive.  Assuming ZU is a cybrid, how would that make him know if you're imperial or rebel?

[Dariush]

I'm thinking it's mass claim time, considering there are potentially two cybrids out there.  Any objections?

Two? Meaning three scum out of eleven players split into two opposing groups? Seems kinda OP to me.

This doesn't jive.  Assuming ZU is a cybrid, how would that make him know if you're imperial or rebel?

Actually, I used 'Imperial' in place of 'town' because he himself called me Imperial. From a Cybrid point of view it doesn't matter which kind of non-cybrid we are.

Full-claim is a damn good idea. I'll start. I'm either a persuader or a zealot. I want everyone to claim their current alignment WITHOUT claiming any conversions. If people I know I have attempted to convert claim opposite alignment to mine, we'll have a liar on our hands, because both non-convertable officers are dead.

[Toaster]

I totally agree with Dariush, because I'm now pretty damn sure he's not a cybrid.


I am also a persuader or zealot, and I failed to convert Dariush last night... which makes sense if he's unconvertable.  I'll hold my N1 target until that person claims.

[Toaster]

Also, I find it ironic that I can trust Dariush to not be a cybrid, even though it pretty much guarantees he's the opposite human alignment from me.

Unless he got converted, but we'll not go there just yet.

[Hapah]

We just might pull this off.

Toaster: I think you or Dar one is full of shit. From the OP:
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Zealots and Persuaders can convert each other (if not officers). If they do, the other player becomes a Zealot/Persuader, as appropriate, rather than maintaining their original roles. (Whatever they do, they do it with full passion!) Converting a sympathizer will change his superficial alignment (how he appears on investigates) but will not change his sympathizer status or win conditions.
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It's worth noting that both officers are dead. Which means either A.) You didn't really try to convert him, you cybrid bastard or B.) You failed to convert him because he IS a cybrid.

Oh, and no worries about low D2 participation: RL happens. It's happened to me most of this game.

Dar: You're asking an awful lot. To catch a Cybrid in the lie you would have had to both target them, and they lose the coinflip and claim the incorrect role. More importantly, it gives you the ability to implicate anyone you choose just by saying "They got it wrong". I can't say I much care for it!

[Toaster]

...Well, I misread that.


After looking at my result PM again, it must be a block, then.  It indicates I never really had a chance to talk to him due to interruptions or people around, while I did talk with the N1 target.

[Urist Imiknorris]

After looking at my result PM again, it must be a block, then.

Yo.

I am a Rebel Saboteur+Mechanic. (Now you know why I'm the one explaining the workings of the mines in the flavor) I can roleblock, and I can try to fix broken shit we come across (which I suspect means the stuff in the hangar we're headed to).

N1 I targeted Hapah. N2, Toaster.

[Dariush]

Dar: You're asking an awful lot. To catch a Cybrid in the lie you would have had to both target them, and they lose the coinflip and claim the incorrect role. More importantly, it gives you the ability to implicate anyone you choose just by saying "They got it wrong". I can't say I much care for it!

Five people (I still don't count myself) alive. I attempted to convert two. 2/5 chance of catching a cybrid. Pretty good odds, don't you think? Why don't you want to claim your alignment?

[Urist Imiknorris]

Did you try to convert zombie urist last night Dariush, and if not, why not?

[Toaster]

UI:

N1 I targeted Hapah. N2, Toaster.

Why?

Did you try to convert zombie urist last night Dariush, and if not, why not?

Let's let the others claim first.

[Hapah]

Dar, it's half those odds, because the Cybrid could take a shot in the dark and has a 50/50 to get it right. And even then, it's only those 20% odds if both people that you targeted are still alive (which I think they are, based on your post, but I can't be certain).

And the reason I don't like it is that it gives you the ability to drop the hammer on anyone. You could say that any person gave the "wrong" answer, and then they've got a hell of a lot of suspicion to get out from under. Even if you just gave who you targeted without telling your alignment, I'd be happy: You still get to catch the same people in your trap, and I can dial back my paranoia a notch.