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Author Topic: Cybrid 5:The Tunnels Of Mars-Game End: Rebel Vittry (Plus Survivor plus scum)  (Read 59097 times)

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Re: Cybrid 5: The Tunnels of Mars - Day 1: It's all downhill from here.
« Reply #150 on: June 13, 2012, 11:56:09 am »

Urist Imiknorris stops short at the sight of obolisk lying on the ground, struggling for air and clutching at his throat. "H-Help! Hey, everyone, get over here! Man down!" he yells, looking around wildly. In a minute, Tiruin is at his side, gun drawn and swinging wildly through the darkness, Toaster and Think at his side  - "Did you see anyone? Anything?" he asks, looking to Urist.

Urist shook his head. "I just turned the corner..."
Toaster just yells "Well, someone DO something! He's dying!"
Tiruin leans down by his side, placing his hands against the writhing mans throat. "Windpipe is collapsed. We might be able to trach that... but it looks like they also burst the artery with all this bruising, and... well... the next few minutes are going to be... There's only one thing I can really do. I'm sorry, obolisk." He stands up, and looks at the others before closing his eyes and firing off a single round into the stricken mans head. Shaking a bit, spattered in blood, he walks over to Urist and hands him the weapon. "Take this - I'm finished with mercy killings. It's your job now."

The others finally arrive, and conversation quickly starts up again. Tiruin, at least at first, simply sits on a rock and leans against the wall, trembling a bit, muttering how this wasn't what he signed up for.

Urist Imiknorris doesn't seem much happier, awkwardly tucking the pistol into his belt. He had a feeling that the rising voices behind there may well be more violence before they moved on once more.


obolisk, Imperial Commander, has been killed in the night!
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Re: Cybrid 5: The Tunnels of Mars - Day 2: And it's a long, long way down.
« Reply #151 on: June 13, 2012, 01:36:28 pm »

Rereadeded thread. Tiruin, I should have paid more attention to you.


UI Why are you giving up your vote for Hapah even though you say you need more data to get a better read?
What are your reasons for voting borno over Toony, Dariush and Tiruin?
The data I was looking for was whether borno was the cybrid.

I didn't feel anything scummy from Toony or Dariush, and I wasn't paying enough attention to Tiruin to catch his blatant scummitude.
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Re: Cybrid 5: The Tunnels of Mars - Day 2: And it's a long, long way down.
« Reply #152 on: June 13, 2012, 02:02:38 pm »

ZU, your explanation for your borno vote isn't an explanation. When you voted, you claimed that your reasons are borno's selfcontradiction about the confidence thing. In your 'explanation' you cited an entirely different reason. And
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Also because I'm still trying to understand the whole Toony/Dariush/Tiruin thing.
is just a lazy excuse.

Hapah, I'm still waiting for those quotes.

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Re: Cybrid 5: The Tunnels of Mars - Day 2: And it's a long, long way down.
« Reply #153 on: June 13, 2012, 08:28:57 pm »

Approximately 48 hours until day end, to make up for my late start
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Re: Cybrid 5: The Tunnels of Mars - Day 2: And it's a long, long way down.
« Reply #154 on: June 13, 2012, 09:47:22 pm »

I'm finally off. It's only Wednesday and I've already put in 35 hours.

Dar, lemme see if I can get you those quotes.
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Re: Cybrid 5: The Tunnels of Mars - Day 2: And it's a long, long way down.
« Reply #155 on: June 13, 2012, 10:37:14 pm »

Dar: Take Toony's post here and here. He had disagreements with people (you and Tir, specifically), but he made an effort to spell out why he disagreed.

Tiruin is just making noise. No "Can you clarify that?", not much "Here's what I think", just attack-attack-attack. It's a pretty regular pattern from him in this thread, the way I see it. It might just be his D1 scumhunting thing, but it doesn't sit right with me.

UI: You look like you're jumping to conclusions. That doesn't look like an apology for lurking to me (I did something similar myself), it just looks like an opening statement without any real meaning. I don't see the OMGUS either, though I can agree on the over-reaction.

I need to read all the posts from the dead peoples, I'll get that done tonight and make a post.
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Re: Cybrid 5: The Tunnels of Mars - Day 2: And it's a long, long way down.
« Reply #156 on: June 14, 2012, 12:22:11 am »

Tiruin: Why vote borno if you feel it's going to be a mislynch? You already declared you were abstaining, implicitly saying you thought it was the wrong choice anyways. There were five minutes to day end. borno had 3 votes already. Why go for it?

zombie urist: Now that Toony's dead, do you understand the "whole Toony/Dariush/Tiruin thing" more clearly? Are you going to act on that now?

So we're down 2 Imperials and 2 Rebels now, right? Book and Toony the rebels, and borno and obolisk the imperials. So we have 7 people alive. If the cybrid converted successfully, and they have a second conversion (the first is unknown, the second quite possible), we could be looking at MYLO.
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If it scares people into posting, then yes.

If they end up lynched because they didn't post, oh well. Too bad for them. Maybe they should've tried posting.
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Re: Cybrid 5: The Tunnels of Mars - Day 2: And it's a long, long way down.
« Reply #157 on: June 14, 2012, 12:32:44 am »

Short post today.

zombie urist: Now that Toony's dead, do you understand the "whole Toony/Dariush/Tiruin thing" more clearly? Are you going to act on that now?
Yes. No, tomorrow.  :P

UI Why are you giving up your vote for Hapah even though you say you need more data to get a better read?
What are your reasons for voting borno over Toony, Dariush and Tiruin?
The data I was looking for was whether borno was the cybrid.
I didn't feel anything scummy from Toony or Dariush, and I wasn't paying enough attention to Tiruin to catch his blatant scummitude.
I was referring to this quote about data. "Hapah: may be imperial, probably not rebel, may be cybrid, more data needed." Also you didn't give any reasons for voting Borno, only reasons for not voting Toony, Dariush, and Tiruin.

ZU, your explanation for your borno vote isn't an explanation. When you voted, you claimed that your reasons are borno's selfcontradiction about the confidence thing. In your 'explanation' you cited an entirely different reason. And
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Also because I'm still trying to understand the whole Toony/Dariush/Tiruin thing.
is just a lazy excuse.
I voted for Borno because he seemed to be trying to appease everyone. Examples of such are the contradictory messages and the vote switching.
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Re: Cybrid 5: The Tunnels of Mars - Day 2: And it's a long, long way down.
« Reply #158 on: June 14, 2012, 12:36:35 am »

So...

obol was MIA for most of the game. Not much information there. I guess he was probablyy killed because nobody would protect a guy who isn't even here?

borno didn't have much information; it seems he was pressed for time, maybe? It also looks like maybe he didn't respond so well to pressure; he fidgeted in the spotlight

Toony
was mostly focused on Tiruin, but apparently didn't suspect him enough to use his explodey-boom on him. Their argument did seem kinda dumb.

Book suspected Toaster and myself, primarily.

Think: I can get past "The" Cybrid, as you could be referring to the faction and not to a lone cybrid individual. But who said they have a conversion at all?
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Re: Cybrid 5: The Tunnels of Mars - Day 2: And it's a long, long way down.
« Reply #159 on: June 14, 2012, 02:12:05 am »

Hapah:
Toony was mostly focused on Tiruin, but apparently didn't suspect him enough to use his explodey-boom on him.
Why would he? Killing the cybrid D1 at the cost of a rebel killing role would be very likely to hand the Empire a D1 victory, yes?

UI: You look like you're jumping to conclusions. That doesn't look like an apology for lurking to me (I did something similar myself), it just looks like an opening statement without any real meaning.
His explanation that he didn't see the thread has the clear implication that he is blaming that for his lack of activity until that point - completely unnecessarily.

ZU:
I was referring to this quote about data. "Hapah: may be imperial, probably not rebel, may be cybrid, more data needed."
As I said, the data I was looking for was if borno was the cybrid, as I viewed him as more suspicious than Hapah. If he wasn't cybrid, Hapah was my prime suspect. But then I reread and Tiruin happened.

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Also you didn't give any reasons for voting Borno, only reasons for not voting Toony, Dariush, and Tiruin.
I gave my reasons for voting borno when I voted borno: Blatant bandwagoning and wielding the Finger of Oh My God You Suck.
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Re: Cybrid 5: The Tunnels of Mars - Day 2: And it's a long, long way down.
« Reply #160 on: June 14, 2012, 03:46:09 am »

I voted for Borno because he seemed to be trying to appease everyone. Examples of such are the contradictory messages and the vote switching.
Contradictory messages about his own confidence are an example of trying to appease everyone?

WHAT.

THE.

FUCK.

Consider the pressure vote on you converted into a real one.

Why would he? Killing the cybrid D1 at the cost of a rebel killing role would be very likely to hand the Empire a D1 victory, yes?
So, you know for a fact Tiruin is a Cybrid and you know for a fact Toony knew that. Explain.

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Re: Cybrid 5: The Tunnels of Mars - Day 2: And it's a long, long way down.
« Reply #161 on: June 14, 2012, 09:30:24 am »

Rereadeded thread. Tiruin, I should have paid more attention to you.


UI Why are you giving up your vote for Hapah even though you say you need more data to get a better read?
What are your reasons for voting borno over Toony, Dariush and Tiruin?
The data I was looking for was whether borno was the cybrid.

I didn't feel anything scummy from Toony or Dariush, and I wasn't paying enough attention to Tiruin to catch his blatant scummitude.
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Firstly, I am surprised by how much you could read from that and imply such. Like I have stated, I never make excuses for lurking, nor do I ever lurk. Check the sign-up thread, I didn't know that the main game thread was put up until Think pointed it out. After checking it, I posted my reply there and went back to work.

Lurking =/= working, unless you think RL is a whole mafia game. I wonder how I can lurk for the later periods of the day when all my cognitive functions cannot respond in a place that doesn't allow internet connection? The local time for then was:
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Secondly, massive overreaction? RVS, mate. That was not an overreaction.

OMGUS? No: a vote solely in response to being voted on is what defines an OMGUS.

I'm not stupid to do such, but if I do vote on a person who has a vote on me, know that I put reasons behind that vote. I've learned enough of that in the BMs to ensure it and if you had been keener in that re-read, you should've seen more of the reason behind it: Reaction. Test.

While it may be look like bad reasons in your eyes, they were good reasons in my view. What do you see wrong and why did you call it an OMGUS?

Thirdly, I thank you for actually reading my answer, but that is what I would do in "the name of fuck and it's sakes" if I was cybrid. If you have any other way of putting it, then tell me what I did wrong in putting my priorities as one, not point it out and leave it for others to decide from fluff. You also quote mined on both, to point it out.

Fourthly, I'm assuming such, pertaining to the Survivor because from what I know, every other cybrid but that has powers. Think didn't mention any powers, so why would I add to what he didn't ask?

Hapah:
Toony was mostly focused on Tiruin, but apparently didn't suspect him enough to use his explodey-boom on him.
Why would he? Killing the cybrid D1 at the cost of a rebel killing role would be very likely to hand the Empire a D1 victory, yes?
Huh?

You only "re-read" now and then you ask Hapah on why wouldn't Toony explode on me without giving your own reasons? Personally, I don't even know why he did so after building that case on me. What I guess from his playstyle, he goes aggressive and doesn't give up until target is lynched.

Also, I can't fathom how you came up with your last sentence. You answered Hapah's general statement with one of your own without letting the defendant...defend himself.

In the simplest way that I thought when reading this: 'Toony knew, and decided to kill the last one who voted him and I knew too.'

UI: You look like you're jumping to conclusions. That doesn't look like an apology for lurking to me (I did something similar myself), it just looks like an opening statement without any real meaning.
His explanation that he didn't see the thread has the clear implication that he is blaming that for his lack of activity until that point - completely unnecessarily.
This is because...I didn't see the thread. What more do you want me to admit? If you aren't happy with the truth and my own time and schedule, then why do you only get to this now? As a matter of fact, why are you leaning on that whole statement for your case?


tl;dr: Your whole case seems to be a shoddy case on me on completely non-existent principles. Why, UI?



Tiruin is just making noise. No "Can you clarify that?", not much "Here's what I think", just attack-attack-attack. It's a pretty regular pattern from him in this thread, the way I see it. It might just be his D1 scumhunting thing, but it doesn't sit right with me.
Those are what I think, not just blatant assault in the name of scumhunting.

To the first. RVS post, and you call my answers noise. The second is in reply to a full question, which was yours and you only call it out now. The other two were returns to others, generally Toony to gauge his response further, as I've had had a bad feeling about him ever since the start of his attack.

If you have any problems, then ask me directly. I know I need a lot of polishing in tuning my scumhunting skills, and many players out there agree. But you say this in a different way: not moving the point to me.

In what ways is my style of scumhunting not 'right' to you?


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zombie urist: Now that Toony's dead, do you understand the "whole Toony/Dariush/Tiruin thing" more clearly? Are you going to act on that now?
What do you understand from it?

Tiruin: Why vote borno if you feel it's going to be a mislynch? You already declared you were abstaining, implicitly saying you thought it was the wrong choice anyways. There were five minutes to day end. borno had 3 votes already. Why go for it?
I did not implicitly say I thought it was the wrong choice, I said I felt such due to gut feeling. I did feel it was going to be a mislynch, but also wasn't sure as to whether if he was town or not. I declined to abstain to make sure he was lynched, as from what I know, a mislynch is better than leaving doubt in the way.

borno did seem scummy to me, I admit, but that part (the feeling) was on the idea that he was a newbie. It was a choice between two evils: one being letting an unknown variable go free for another day, and the other being lynch and perhaps unveil who he truly is to let it rest. I picked the latter to clear it up. Also, the vote was to ensure my decision.
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Re: Cybrid 5: The Tunnels of Mars - Day 1: It's all downhill from here.
« Reply #162 on: June 14, 2012, 11:58:13 am »

HELLO SCUM YOU ARE VERY DEFENSIVE TODAY I WOULD LIKE TO LYNCH YOU PLEASE

Lurking =/= working, unless you think RL is a whole mafia game. I wonder how I can lurk for the later periods of the day when all my cognitive functions cannot respond in a place that doesn't allow internet connection? The local time for then was:
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That's not what I meant AT ALL. I meant that you were excusing your lack of prior posting far too early for it to be reasonable to do so. How the hell would the excuse you gave do anything to cover future lurking?

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OMGUS? No: a vote solely in response to being voted on is what defines an OMGUS.
No. An OMGUS is pressuring someone for the sole reason that they are pressuring you.


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I'm not stupid to do such, but if I do vote on a person who has a vote on me, know that I put reasons behind that vote.
*looks at where you voted me* Then what is that shit.

Nice OMGUS btw.

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While it may be look like bad reasons in your eyes, they were good reasons in my view. What do you see wrong and why did you call it an OMGUS?
What I see wrong is that it's a terrible reaction test: What reactions were you looking for? Second, "pressure" and "reaction test" are probably the most common excuses for scummy/baseless votes.

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Thirdly, I thank you for actually reading my answer, but that is what I would do in "the name of fuck and it's sakes" if I was cybrid. If you have any other way of putting it, then tell me what I did wrong in putting my priorities as one, not point it out and leave it for others to decide from fluff.
NO IT DAMN WELL ISN'T:

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Fourthly, I'm assuming such, pertaining to the Survivor because from what I know, every other cybrid but that has powers. Think didn't mention any powers, so why would I add to what he didn't ask?
So instead of asking for clarification on whether abilities were at all relevant, you simply assumed that when Think said cybrid, he meant not-really-a-cybrid.

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Hapah:
Toony was mostly focused on Tiruin, but apparently didn't suspect him enough to use his explodey-boom on him.
Why would he? Killing the cybrid D1 at the cost of a rebel killing role would be very likely to hand the Empire a D1 victory, yes?
Huh?

You only "re-read" now and then you ask Hapah on why wouldn't Toony explode on me without giving your own reasons? Personally, I don't even know why he did so after building that case on me. What I guess from his playstyle, he goes aggressive and doesn't give up until target is lynched.

Also, I can't fathom how you came up with your last sentence. You answered Hapah's general statement with one of your own without letting the defendant...defend himself.

In the simplest way that I thought when reading this: 'Toony knew, and decided to kill the last one who voted him and I knew too.'
As Hapah said, Toony was mostly focused on you. You were his main suspect, and as such, you were probably the person he believed to be the cybrid. Exploding you would be stupid in case he was right. Also, wtf does the part I bolded mean?

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If you aren't happy with the truth and my own time and schedule, then why do you only get to this now?
You really are bad at reading what I say, aren't you?

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As a matter of fact, why are you leaning on that whole statement for your case?
If this is supposed to mean "why am I using that as my whole case?" I'm not.

Dariush: I make reasonable (imo) guesses and extrapolate from there. Reasonable guess: Toony was sincere in going after Tiruin. Do you see where my explanation comes from now?
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Re: Cybrid 5: The Tunnels of Mars - Day 1: It's all downhill from here.
« Reply #163 on: June 14, 2012, 12:34:04 pm »

Dariush: I make reasonable (imo) guesses and extrapolate from there. Reasonable guess: Toony was sincere in going after Tiruin. Do you see where my explanation comes from now?
No, you do not make reasonable guesses, you are A FUCKING DUMBASS. Or scum. Your logic goes 'Toony must have known Tiruin is Cybrid so he didn't explode him because that would make his team lose'. Toony could not have known that regardless of whether it's true. That is an incredibly stupid argument you pulled directly out of your ass. I said so in my last post and I repeat it now, but you ignored it and spewed more vomit, UI. Also, what the hell do you mean by 'sincerely' going after Tiruin? Toony didn't know the identity of his teammates. He could not have done anything 'insincere' for fear of attacking a Rebel.

ZU, I still want explanations from you.

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Re: Cybrid 5: The Tunnels of Mars - Day 2: And it's a long, long way down.
« Reply #164 on: June 14, 2012, 12:35:51 pm »

Also, in case no one noticed, there was a name in the "Officer" bit in the Roleflip today.

I randomly cycled it in and out every several seconds after day start, every several minutes after that, and every couple hours after that.

So if you saw your own name in there, that's why. And if you think you learned something from it, think again. If you looked more than once, you've probably already realized this. :P
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