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Tibbz2

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Quick farm and magma questions
« on: June 06, 2012, 06:56:13 am »

Hey Guys,

Tbh i've never come across how to do these, so I thought I would ask. If there is already a thread sorry.

1. For seed stockpiles near my farm, how do I prevent them from being placed in barrels/bags etc.? (Because it's a waste)

2. How do I bring up magma to my fort, from a magma pool/sea? (Takes ages to haul crap from the forges down there, and I don't want to have to move my fort down.)

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Re: Quick farm and magma questions
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2012, 07:07:44 am »

1) Make the barrel count zero on stockpile when you q over it. I don't know if you can disallow bags, but you shouldn't, because otherwise it'll need a huge area.

2) Pump stacks, or minecarts. For the first, http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Pump_stack#Pump_stack here. The second, can't help you there. I dislike minecarts because they are a health hazard.
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Re: Quick farm and magma questions
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2012, 07:39:41 am »

1) Make the barrel count zero on stockpile when you q over it. I don't know if you can disallow bags, but you shouldn't, because otherwise it'll need a huge area.

2) Pump stacks, or minecarts. For the first, http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Pump_stack#Pump_stack here. The second, can't help you there. I dislike minecarts because they are a health hazard.

Thanks for the answers dude.

And I was under the impression that bags were as bad as barrels with seeds, but turns out they aren't.
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Re: Quick farm and magma questions
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2012, 05:48:00 pm »

1) Make the barrel count zero on stockpile when you q over it. I don't know if you can disallow bags, but you shouldn't, because otherwise it'll need a huge area.

2) Pump stacks, or minecarts. For the first, http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Pump_stack#Pump_stack here. The second, can't help you there. I dislike minecarts because they are a health hazard.

Thanks for the answers dude.

And I was under the impression that bags were as bad as barrels with seeds, but turns out they aren't.

What do you mean by bags being "as bad as barrels with seeds"?  I'm just curious what sort of problem you're having with the barrels?  Dwarves will put seeds in a bag, then the bags in a barrel.  You can fit 1,000 seeds in a barrel, 10 bags with 100 seeds each.  You can run an entire undergound farm off of a 1 square stockpile for seeds.
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Re: Quick farm and magma questions
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2012, 06:58:54 pm »

I wouldn't recommend ever having barrels enabled for seed stockpiles, just because it'll amplify the job cancellations hugely. You can minimize the effect bags have on it by using an intermediate stockpile, but I haven't found a way to completely prevent it.
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Re: Quick farm and magma questions
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2012, 12:55:40 am »

I wouldn't recommend ever having barrels enabled for seed stockpiles, just because it'll amplify the job cancellations hugely. You can minimize the effect bags have on it by using an intermediate stockpile, but I haven't found a way to completely prevent it.

Ah yes, I wasn't thinking .11 yet.
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Re: Quick farm and magma questions
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2012, 01:08:01 am »

do magma pistons still work?
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Re: Quick farm and magma questions
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2012, 01:37:31 am »

As of 34.07: yes they do. And I didnt see anything in the change logs that said they do not in .11
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Re: Quick farm and magma questions
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2012, 02:22:51 am »

And there I thought you wanted to irrigate with magma.

But now you can bring up magma with minecarts, which is arguably easier to set up than a magma piston or pump stack, but less effective.

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Re: Quick farm and magma questions
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2012, 02:50:29 am »

And there I thought you wanted to irrigate with magma.

But now you can bring up magma with minecarts, which is arguably easier to set up than a magma piston or pump stack, but less effective.

Magma irrigation sure does sound FUN  8)


I wouldn't recommend ever having barrels enabled for seed stockpiles, just because it'll amplify the job cancellations hugely. You can minimize the effect bags have on it by using an intermediate stockpile, but I haven't found a way to completely prevent it.

Ah yes, I wasn't thinking .11 yet.

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