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Re: Dwarf Fortress 0.34.11 Released
« Reply #60 on: June 07, 2012, 06:57:47 pm »

'bug' report tracking wagons blocked by traps: 5927
There's speculation that it came in with v08 as a side effect of track stops.
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« Reply #61 on: June 08, 2012, 05:53:28 am »

It's probably in there to make it more challenging to keep your fort safe during caravan time.
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« Reply #62 on: June 08, 2012, 06:41:32 am »

It's probably in there to make it more challenging to keep your fort safe during caravan time.

What is good ideas but it was not listed in changelog of new version, so it is probably unintentional.
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« Reply #63 on: June 08, 2012, 07:13:17 am »

Is anyone else having a problem with marksdwarves training? Mine won't actually move to the range, they just stand still with the job description "going to archery practice". Not sure if it's a bug with the new version or just a problem with the save I transferred from the last one.
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« Reply #64 on: June 08, 2012, 08:19:39 am »

vidboi,  the problem I seem to have is that I've got a whole archery range and a good sized squad of marksdwarves...and maybe one will shoot a few bolts every once in a while.
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« Reply #65 on: June 08, 2012, 08:42:15 am »

vidboi,  the problem I seem to have is that I've got a whole archery range and a good sized squad of marksdwarves...and maybe one will shoot a few bolts every once in a while.
Any word on whether the archery ranges are still borked? It used to be, at least, so you had to make an archery range out of every target you want the marksdorfs to practice on...
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« Reply #66 on: June 08, 2012, 01:17:12 pm »

vidboi,  the problem I seem to have is that I've got a whole archery range and a good sized squad of marksdwarves...and maybe one will shoot a few bolts every once in a while.
Any word on whether the archery ranges are still borked? It used to be, at least, so you had to make an archery range out of every target you want the marksdorfs to practice on...

Yeah, you still have to designate each archery target individually, which I've done, but none of my markdwarves will train as despite getting the job they don't move to the range, and even when stationed on the range and then deactivated they'll get the "archery practice" job but won't fire. I'll have to try again with a different fort to see if it's just a bugged save.
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« Reply #67 on: June 08, 2012, 01:56:59 pm »

Could it be a problem with the designations where you need to put a wall or something solid in between each "archery range" so they're not overlapped?  I'm at work so I can't check it out right now.
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« Reply #68 on: June 08, 2012, 02:13:51 pm »

Also, only thing I could suggest, do they have bolts that allow them to practice with, available? And do they have quivers? And of course crossbows for everyone...

(Although that said, I don't know if they can even get the job designation if they don't have all the equipment.)
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« Reply #69 on: June 08, 2012, 02:47:05 pm »

Also, only thing I could suggest, do they have bolts that allow them to practice with, available? And do they have quivers? And of course crossbows for everyone...

(Although that said, I don't know if they can even get the job designation if they don't have all the equipment.)

Yep yep and yep. I checked their inventory and they all have crossboes and quivers with bolts in. They don't cancel the job, they just don't actually do it, instead they just stand still. It's very puzzling. I've generated a new world and tried it in that and I still have this problem.
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« Reply #70 on: June 09, 2012, 07:55:08 am »

Yeah, you still have to designate each archery target individually, which I've done, but none of my markdwarves will train as despite getting the job they don't move to the range, and even when stationed on the range and then deactivated they'll get the "archery practice" job but won't fire. I'll have to try again with a different fort to see if it's just a bugged save.

Stationing them certainly won't help.  It's a totally different job from "Archery practice", so if anything it's just confusing them.

I haven't used archery ranges in eons, but one other thing I remember is that there has to be an unbroken walkable path from the point where the dwarf is supposed to stand to the target.  No digging a channel for the bolts to fall into -- that stops them from firing.
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« Reply #71 on: June 09, 2012, 09:22:26 am »

So here's what I just did and got a number of dwarves practicing:

O=Rock or Wall
X=target
V=Door
p=stockpile
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Each "X" is designated up its one tile wide channel as an archery range...it turns out the door in the middle of the four is superfluous but I kept it anyways. The stockpile is no-bins, all bolts.  Each archery range is set to "T" for my marksdwarf squad. 

It took a few months for the dwarves to become aware of it...but now that they did...BINGO, I've got three or four at once, all practicing away...this is a huge improvement...I'm glad I looked into this thread!!
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« Reply #72 on: June 09, 2012, 10:03:11 am »

It's probably in there to make it more challenging to keep your fort safe during caravan time.
Yeah, but if I wanted to make it more challenging, I just wouldn't make traps.

I got bears charging my depot for sweet, sweet booze and they're being wasted by being killed instead of getting brainwashed into my fort's service  >:(
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« Reply #73 on: June 10, 2012, 01:53:43 am »

I got bears charging my depot for sweet, sweet booze and they're being wasted by being killed instead of getting brainwashed into my fort's service  >:(

Long ways are your friend. Make a long long way for the wagons, with a few twists and one or two short ones 1 tile wide to the depot and fill them with traps. Place the occasional bridges in between too for additional safety just in case some vile force of darkness with a huge huge number appears and then it's all good. The bears will most likely take the shortest route to their booze and get successfully caged.

If not: close the bridge that secures your depot on the wagon way and force the bears to move out the narrow cage trap way.


Pretty easy and fine solution tbh.
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« Reply #74 on: June 10, 2012, 06:34:41 am »

Stationing them certainly won't help.  It's a totally different job from "Archery practice", so if anything it's just confusing them.

I haven't used archery ranges in eons, but one other thing I remember is that there has to be an unbroken walkable path from the point where the dwarf is supposed to stand to the target.  No digging a channel for the bolts to fall into -- that stops them from firing.

As in I used the station command to move them to the archery range and then cancelled it. They produce the job "archery practice" but don't actually fire. There aren't any obstructions to the range, and I've tried it in a brand new world gen to the same effect.
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