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Author Topic: Darkest Hour: La Troisième République (France WWII LP)  (Read 51095 times)

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Re: Darkest Hour: La Troisième République (France WWII LP)
« Reply #195 on: September 22, 2012, 07:40:43 pm »

Canadian commandos turning the course of the war by cutting off a major Nazi force? Now that's an alternate history I'd love to see.

The only thing that kept Hitler from having the A-bomb in real history was a few Finnish commandos.  It's certainly not that far-fetched.

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« Reply #196 on: September 22, 2012, 10:59:12 pm »

February 2nd, 1940

Days ago, an allied conference was held in London, attended by major allied dignitaries. A feeling of mixed anxiety and dread hung over the dignitaries as they bickered over how to stop the Nazi menace. Suddenly, Canadian General Andrew McNaughton stood up and cut through the anxiety like a Canadian Polar Bear clawing down an Inuit (lol) and stated he had a plan. A plan so brash and audacious it may just work. He suggested to personally lead a crack squad of Canadian commandos landing in Wilhelmshaven and cutting through lower Saxony to sever German supply lines long enough for our soldiers fighting in Saarbrucken to push through the front lines! Although his idea was met with resistance from the old French Generals, it's our best shot at the moment and is currently a go.

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February 3rd, 1940

The battle of Medenine is over, resulting in Italian retreat.

February 8th, 1940

The landing in Wilhelmshaven has been called off. We've gravely underestimated the number of German troops beyond Saarbrucken. General McNaughton is humiliated, but we may have use of him yet, on the front.

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February 18th, 1940

A few divisions in Strasbourg have been completely annihilated in a German counterattack. Our forces are slowly being grind apart in the cogs of the well oiled German war machine.

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Alright, well, that was an utter failure. And I was all damn excited for General McNaughton to bust right into Berlin and kick Hitler in the ball. We're pretty much fucked I guess. Unless we withdraw, hope the Germans don't attack right away for whatever reason, and regain our strength behind the lines? We've got plenty of manpower, I don't think it would take long to replenish the troops. At this point I'm open to anything.
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Re: Darkest Hour: La Troisième République (France WWII LP)
« Reply #197 on: September 22, 2012, 11:07:02 pm »

If you pull back, would you survive a blitzkrieg long enough to reform? 

If you can, go for it.  Pincer their asses.
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« Reply #198 on: September 23, 2012, 02:20:19 am »

If you do have to withdraw, make them bleed for every mile. The trick wil be knowing how far to let them come before encirclement is a good idea.

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Re: Darkest Hour: La Troisième République (France WWII LP)
« Reply #199 on: September 23, 2012, 03:35:46 pm »

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You know, now I'm curious to know about 'the other side' of Germany.
I suppose also Russia is on the Reich's side, right?
We should withdraw and regroup back. Once they push through, we could actually use those canadian commandos then.
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Re: Darkest Hour: La Troisième République (France WWII LP)
« Reply #200 on: September 23, 2012, 09:10:44 pm »

The only thing that kept Hitler from having the A-bomb in real history was a few Finnish commandos.  It's certainly not that far-fetched.

Um a few finish commandos and the fact that the German nuclear program was nowhere near having the capacity to even know what a nuclear bomb would take.  Over half the Manhatten project was refining, which cost a billion dollars in 1945 dollars.  The german didn't even have a refining program.
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Re: Darkest Hour: La Troisième République (France WWII LP)
« Reply #201 on: September 23, 2012, 09:15:55 pm »

The only thing that kept Hitler from having the A-bomb in real history was a few Finnish commandos.  It's certainly not that far-fetched.

Um a few finish commandos and the fact that the German nuclear program was nowhere near having the capacity to even know what a nuclear bomb would take.  Over half the Manhattan project was refining, which cost a billion dollars in 1945 dollars.  The german didn't even have a refining program.
Not to mention all the scientific types that got the hell out of Dodge once Hitler showed his true colors. Their entire nuclear program was about as close to a joke as you can get with Nazis.
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« Reply #202 on: September 23, 2012, 10:00:25 pm »

Unfortunately, the Nazis can and will probably get nukes in the game, unless things go more or less historically from this point on (which would still be bad for us :) ).
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« Reply #203 on: September 23, 2012, 10:24:21 pm »

At this point, I'd pull back and turtle up in the forts if you think you have the forces to hold them. Since you've somewhat filled the gap in the Line, you should be able to hold them for a decent length of time. In the event of a breakthrough without nearby reserves, do a full retreat and try to establish shorter battle lines to at least hold Paris and a beachhead for Allied forces... and pray that the sleeping bear gets in on the action on the left side, so to speak.
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« Reply #204 on: September 23, 2012, 11:47:10 pm »

If the Germans still haven't invaded the low countries yet you still have time to attack through the weak underbelly of Europe.  Italy usually leaves it's homeland strangely under defended.  Use some air missions to scout of Italy and they'll probably not have more then 3 or 4 divisions in their homeland beyond the ones at the border.  If that's the case you should open a second front.

If you can spare around 10 division for a naval invasion of Italy including at least a couple cavalry or motorized you should be able to occupy most of mainland Italy in under a month.  Focus on driving north as quickly as possible, any forces to your south won't be much of a threat and the Italians won't do a good job raising more.  You want to reach Germany fast enough that you can get into Austria before the Germans move significant forces in place to occupy the mountains of Austria.

At this point two options are available for you.  You can simply play defensive on the Italian front, making the Germans divert about 12 divisions to counter you.  Once you cutoff the Italian troops in the Alps you can just move your Alpine troops to the Austrian front so this has the effect of occupying 12 German divisions while costing you none of your own.  Or you can go on the offensive, pushing into southern Germany to occupy a lot of territory and cause widescale destruction.  Best case scenario is you encircle the germans in west germany and cause total collapse.  But even if you fail to achieve that you still will cause a lot of economic damage just by temporarily occupying all those german lands and taking Italy out of the war.
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Re: Darkest Hour: La Troisième République (France WWII LP)
« Reply #205 on: September 23, 2012, 11:49:40 pm »

That works a lot better, if the Italians are weak enough for it to be done fairly quickly.
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« Reply #206 on: September 24, 2012, 12:03:39 am »

+1 to curbstomping Italy if feasible.
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Re: Darkest Hour: La Troisième République (France WWII LP)
« Reply #207 on: September 24, 2012, 07:08:39 am »

The only thing that kept Hitler from having the A-bomb in real history was a few Finnish commandos.  It's certainly not that far-fetched.

Um a few finish commandos and the fact that the German nuclear program was nowhere near having the capacity to even know what a nuclear bomb would take.  Over half the Manhattan project was refining, which cost a billion dollars in 1945 dollars.  The german didn't even have a refining program.
Not to mention all the scientific types that got the hell out of Dodge once Hitler showed his true colors. Their entire nuclear program was about as close to a joke as you can get with Nazis.
Well, the American nuclear program basically consisted of those belonging to the culture group Hilter wanted dead.  Proving that hatred always backfires.  But the point is: Without those Finnish commandos, Hitler could probably still have made a "dirty bomb".

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Re: Darkest Hour: La Troisième République (France WWII LP)
« Reply #208 on: September 24, 2012, 11:34:10 am »

The only thing that kept Hitler from having the A-bomb in real history was a few Finnish commandos.  It's certainly not that far-fetched.

Um a few finish commandos and the fact that the German nuclear program was nowhere near having the capacity to even know what a nuclear bomb would take.  Over half the Manhattan project was refining, which cost a billion dollars in 1945 dollars.  The german didn't even have a refining program.
Not to mention all the scientific types that got the hell out of Dodge once Hitler showed his true colors. Their entire nuclear program was about as close to a joke as you can get with Nazis.
Well, the American nuclear program basically consisted of those belonging to the culture group Hilter wanted dead.  Proving that hatred always backfires.  But the point is: Without those Finnish commandos, Hitler could probably still have made a "dirty bomb".
In fact, the Nazis did have enough heavy water to produce quite a few nuclear warheads. The main problem was that during the blitzkrieg they didn't need it, and during the later phase of the war they couldn't afford it. If they had sunk the same amount of resources in nuclear research as they did into their rockets, they would have gotten them.

Fun fact: The nuclear material for both Hitlers weaponry and the American bombs was both provided by Belgium, thanks to the Uranium mines in Congo.(Though I'm pretty sure it was the compagnies doing the transactions, with the governement not aware of anything.)
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Re: Darkest Hour: La Troisième République (France WWII LP)
« Reply #209 on: September 24, 2012, 10:25:16 pm »

Who cares about your country being oppressed when there's profit afoot?  :P
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