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NullForceOmega

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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Bill is watching.
« Reply #2355 on: March 20, 2017, 09:39:44 am »

The look on Jack's face in that moment, not horror, or even disgust, just dejected acceptance.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Bill is watching.
« Reply #2356 on: March 20, 2017, 02:50:13 pm »

I was stoked at the quality of this season's opener, but episode two blew me out of the water, I mean... depending on how the rest of the season goes, this is a masterpiece on par, or even exceeding Avatar TLA.
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« Reply #2357 on: March 20, 2017, 03:43:23 pm »

I was stoked at the quality of this season's opener, but episode two blew me out of the water, I mean... depending on how the rest of the season goes, this is a masterpiece on par, or even exceeding Avatar TLA.

We should see it to the end and let the initial excitement die down before we make any claims like that. And I have a nagging feeling you're comparing the incomparable here. Can't put entire series on the scale with a single (rather short) season of another series.

But the creators really turned up all the right dials for this season - the animation quality, character design, the story... Everything's just so much better now. Not without flaws, still, but better than ever before in the show.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Bill is watching.
« Reply #2358 on: March 20, 2017, 03:44:12 pm »

I'm fairly impressed so far!

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« Reply #2359 on: March 20, 2017, 04:19:01 pm »

-snippis maximum-

Agreed. Although, length doesn't necessarily matter. Look at Stranger Things, 8 episodes, but one of the greatest television shows ever. One amazing season is all you need. Anyways, yes, it's a little early--and im concerned about reconciling the light-heartedness of some parts with the dark intensity of others--but if they keep the pressure on... I dunno, it'll be great.
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« Reply #2360 on: March 20, 2017, 04:35:55 pm »

Agreed. Although, length doesn't necessarily matter. Look at Stranger Things, 8 episodes, but one of the greatest television shows ever. One amazing season is all you need. Anyways, yes, it's a little early--and im concerned about reconciling the light-heartedness of some parts with the dark intensity of others--but if they keep the pressure on... I dunno, it'll be great.

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Definitely not saying show has to be long-running to be good. Case in point: Gravity Falls. Bloody masterpiece told in 2 seasons.
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« Reply #2361 on: March 20, 2017, 05:53:58 pm »

The look on Jack's face in that moment, not horror, or even disgust, just dejected acceptance.

Well it isn't like he hasn't killed people before.

Nor is there anything specific about this situation that calls for extra issues.
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« Reply #2362 on: March 20, 2017, 06:00:26 pm »

In short: get hype for akubowl.
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« Reply #2363 on: March 21, 2017, 02:10:24 am »

Neo, Jack has never before killed a human in the entire run of the series, even Genndy himself made a point of revealing that Jack would be dealing with this for the first time.  On top of all his other problems right now, this is likely to seriously damage Jack.
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« Reply #2364 on: March 21, 2017, 02:13:12 am »

Neo, Jack has never before killed a human in the entire run of the series

What about that episode where he fights a huge ton of assassins? He killed a whole bunch there and only spared the woman.

To my knowledge he has killed people before.

Actually it was one of the strengths of the series that both the innocent and guilty alike fell by his blade.
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« Reply #2365 on: March 21, 2017, 02:15:48 am »

WORD OF GOD NEO.  Genndy says Jack has never killed before, that is all, end of statement.  The assassins are never confirmed dead by Jack's hand or blade.  He only killed robots and eldritch things.
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« Reply #2366 on: March 21, 2017, 02:16:50 am »

WORD OF GOD NEO.  Genndy says Jack has never killed before, that is all, end of statement.  The assassins are never confirmed dead by Jack's hand or blade.  He only killed robots and eldritch things.

So... it wasn't an indiscretion shot...

He slashed them into unconsciousness?

Word of God just handed out a retcon!
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« Reply #2367 on: March 21, 2017, 02:23:32 am »

Go watch it again, I just did in order to be sure.  Lots of bodies on the ground, no blood, no oil, no verification of death.

Jack not killing humans or other 'normal' beings has been a base principle of the series since it began (probably because it aired as a cartoon-cartoon originally.)
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« Reply #2368 on: March 21, 2017, 02:24:27 am »

Go watch it again, I just did in order to be sure.  Lots of bodies on the ground, no blood, no oil, no verification of death.

Well yes. Yet I always assumed they were dead and it was just an indiscretion shot.

Even the scene itself suggests they are dead.

This feels a LOT like the whole... "Off a cliff" thing. Where as long as you don't find their corpse not only did the fall not kill them... But it also inexplicably healed whatever damage they took before they fell.
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« Reply #2369 on: March 21, 2017, 02:27:29 am »

I don't know why you would think that when the series as a whole went out of its way to show what Jack was killing, machines and magical abominations.  He spared every thinking creature he fought, unless it was a demon.
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