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[Neonivek]

I dunno but I guess Western Animation does have: Rainbow Bright, Equestria Girls, Strawberry Shortcake, Bratz, Monster High, Winx Club, Trolls, Sofia the First, and Jem and the Holograms.

Though I shouldn't put in Jem and the Holograms because it was pretty amazing... As well I'd defend Sofia the First to the death.

And they should have continued Jane and the Dragon.

Sometimes it pays to actually know a LOT of TV shows.

I think the lesson everyone should take from this is: Put Jane and the Dragon back on the air! Goodness!

It is actually TO DATE the only Western Show that has a "Kind hearted Male Character who wouldn't hurt a fly" AS his character... and I LOVE him. I love his introduction where Jane couldn't even track him because he walks so softly that he doesn't leave tracks. Why does he walk so softly? Because he doesn't want to hurt any plants. (Which I mention because that is the one male character I want to appear in TV more often... Goodness Alexander from FF6 and the Gardener from Jane and The Dragon and that is it)

And Most characters in Jane and the Dragon actually has depth. So you have the spoiled Rotten young and fat prince right? But he is also a rather large animal lover and dislikes the hunt, giving hints that perhaps there is a kind heart under everything.

As well Jane is just an awesome character, I honestly wanted to see more episodes centered just around her exploring. But what is most admirable about her is that she sticks to her code of ethics and doesn't break them even when it might hurt her. She is also witty, quick, quick thinking, kind most of the time, brash, brave, headstrong, prideful, stubborn.

[Radio Controlled]

If I like X, then person A saying "I don't like X because the artstyle isn't my thing" or "I can't connect to the stories" is perfectly valid and ok.

However, if A says "I don't like X because it degenerates women" then that implies I enjoy things that degenerate women. And since I like to think that's not the case, there's a clear difference with the previous. Couple that with the fact that person A then displays a very lacking knowledge of the subject, I do see why that would really tick people of.

For comparison: If I like reading, and you don't because you can't get into a story that way, that's ok. But if you don't like reading, and then go on to proclaim that's because "books are just filthy smut and power fantasies" (implying that I, as a known reading fan, am into that stuff), and then couple that with saying "Oh yeah, I've only ever read fifty shades of grey, and none of the thousands of other books out there" then I think you can see where the problem lies.

[Caz]

If I like X, then person A saying "I don't like X because the artstyle isn't my thing" or "I can't connect to the stories" is perfectly valid and ok.

However, if A says "I don't like X because it degenerates women" then that implies I enjoy things that degenerate women. And since I like to think that's not the case, there's a clear difference with the previous. Couple that with the fact that person A then displays a very lacking knowledge of the subject, I do see why that would really tick people of.

For comparison: If I like reading, and you don't because you can't get into a story that way, that's ok. But if you don't like reading, and then go on to proclaim that's because "books are just filthy smut and power fantasies" (implying that I, as a known reading fan, am into that stuff), and then couple that with saying "Oh yeah, I've only ever read fifty shades of grey, and none of the thousands of other books out there" then I think you can see where the problem lies.

Agreed.

[Neonivek]

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Ohh 50 Shades of Grey... That is also a topic I know WAAAAAAY too much about. Suffice it to say it makes me question its fanbase.

Not for liking the book mind you, afterall smut has its place and even the worst stories can be liked by many people. But with this odd fudging of details they often do where some scenes are overlooked.

But alas not only is this not a 50 shades topic, but there will never be one... because a discussion of that book would be the most uncomfortable discussion in everyone's life.

Also I saw the Rainbow Bright Reboot

It is somehow worse and actually insulting to everyone...

I mean sure the old Rainbow Bright has a lot of REALLY unfortunate implications, but it was actually awesome for that.

[Caz]

Also I saw the Rainbow Bright Reboot

It is somehow worse and actually insulting to everyone...

I mean sure the old Rainbow Bright has a lot of REALLY unfortunate implications, but it was actually awesome for that.

There was a Scooby Doo remake lately and the animation was one of the most hideous I'd ever seen. They also shoehorned in a romance between Shaggy and Velma. It was ick.

[Putnam]

That show was fucking incredible.

[UXLZ]

The old Scooby Doo was, please don't tell me they've ruined my childhood favorite show?

[Neonivek]

Yeah while the Shaggy and Velma romance was terrible...

The Fred and Daphne Romance was probably one of the BEST romances I've seen in western animation. Neither of them demanded anything from the other that they weren't honestly owed and their journey was about learning about the other and celebrating their differences. They actually shown how a atypical relationship would work. Fred didn't have to suddenly learn how to express himself in ways that he honestly couldn't, and Daphne didn't have to do anything really (Daphne was pretty much the driver in that relationship).

As opposed to Carl Squared where Sky had full control of the relationship and the entire thing was mostly Sky usually being overly critical and demanding and Carl needing to do whatever the heck she wanted and Sky usually only helping Carl when it suits her interests. Or Carl just doing whatever the heck he wanted and just being an uncomfortable jerk to Sky (it gets better after they compromise...)... But on the PLUS side... Sky eventually learns that all their relationship seems to be is Carl doing stuff for her.

Carl and Sky's relationship is pretty much my exemplar of how not to do a relationship in fiction (unless you do it intentionally).

The old Scooby Doo was, please don't tell me they've ruined my childhood favorite show?

IF... and this is a bit If... you can get past the horrible Velma and Shaggy romance tumor... You will enjoy it.

[Mech#4]

I never really liked the animation in the Hanna Barbara cartoons, they were too stiff compared to the Disney cartoons and ended up looking rather... well... cheap.

[Putnam]

The old Scooby Doo was, please don't tell me they've ruined my childhood favorite show?

The old Scooby Doo was shit. This one has... a plot.

[UXLZ]

Scooby Doo was a MotW style format... Why would it need a plot?

Hey, the animation was fine and the show entertaining for 7 year old me. >_>
I always found most of the Disney stuff not that interesting, anyway.

Still, if the new one's good, that's awesome.

[Putnam]

Hey, the animation was fine

wait okay I've been exaggerating my hate of the old scooby doo for mostly comedic effect (I actually enjoy watching it) but there's no way you can make that statement in particular with a straight face

[UXLZ]

It was definitely pretty stiff and worse than the Disney animation, but it wasn't noticeably bad to my 7 year old brain. Nowadays I'd probably laugh at it, but it's, subjectively, 'fine'. >_>
Nothing to write home about, though.

[Neonivek]

Poor animation can be saved with good characterization and plot.

*Laughs*

[Comrade P.]

From my childhood I remember wacthing only Samurai Jack and Last Airbender. All the other stuff aired just filled the time between those two for me. All the other cartoons I saw I watched during past two years.