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Author Topic: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread.  (Read 313205 times)

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« Reply #1785 on: January 05, 2015, 05:46:21 pm »

Still hating on a subset of animation.  Its discrimination I tell ya.

*Throws in more words about this being a Western toon, mainly highlighting the fact that creators/team behind this is Western, despite the fact that the animation is more on par with what is considered anime.*
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« Reply #1786 on: January 05, 2015, 05:52:09 pm »

no it's not racism. Not liking a style of animation does not equate to racism. I do not not like anime because it is made by the Japanese, I do not like anime because it sucks and has terrible depictions of women. But mostly because the artstyle is dull as all hell.

i don't like webcomics because they suck and have terrible depictions of women. but mostly because the artstyle is dull as all hell.

it's just as valid a statement because both mediums are varied

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« Reply #1787 on: January 05, 2015, 05:54:50 pm »

Plus, again, Avatar isn't anime. And its depictions of women are pretty good, too.
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« Reply #1788 on: January 05, 2015, 05:55:33 pm »

discriminatory? yes. Racist? no.

I do not perceive much variation from one anime to the next, and the artstyle feels like a different take on things by the same artist ad nauseum.

And I think it is safe to say that a lot of anime depicts women horribly. They definitely fall into an always passive/submissive role.
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« Reply #1789 on: January 05, 2015, 05:58:13 pm »

And I think it is safe to say that a lot of anime depicts women horribly. They definitely fall into an always passive/submissive role.

are you serious

you don't even watch anime, you cannot make statements like that.

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« Reply #1790 on: January 05, 2015, 05:59:32 pm »

And I think it is safe to say that a lot of anime depicts women horribly. They definitely fall into an always passive/submissive role.

are you serious

you don't even watch anime, you cannot make statements like that.

I used to devour anime, actually. I still have LaBlue Girl on video around here somewhere.

Actually, I probably have quite a few (not just porn) on vhs in storage
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« Reply #1791 on: January 05, 2015, 06:01:09 pm »

On subject of actual Anime, that sounds about true for media in general (and having not seen much but done a research paper that involved Anime, it seems to be prevalent there). But I'd highly recommend Ghibli if you're looking for positive depictions of women.

On the subject of Avatar, several arse-kicking non-sexualized female characters who get a ton of development, as well as perhaps one of the best female villains of all time. And the style is more different than you'd think at first glance.
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« Reply #1792 on: January 05, 2015, 06:02:44 pm »

And I think it is safe to say that a lot of anime depicts women horribly. They definitely fall into an always passive/submissive role.

are you serious

you don't even watch anime, you cannot make statements like that.

I used to devour anime, actually. I still have LaBlue Girl on video around here somewhere.

Actually, I probably have quite a few (not just porn) on vhs in storage

Could you please give non porn examples, it's not really helping your credibility here.
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« Reply #1793 on: January 05, 2015, 06:03:24 pm »

Plus, that statement is patently false. The way it's worded means even one counterexample means it's wrong, and Ghibli has multiple.

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« Reply #1794 on: January 05, 2015, 06:05:27 pm »

And I think it is safe to say that a lot of anime depicts women horribly. They definitely fall into an always passive/submissive role.

Go watch Ghibli creations , as of now. It was Ghibli studio who brought you Grave of the Fireflies. They make movies that good on regular basis.
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« Reply #1795 on: January 05, 2015, 06:06:24 pm »

this was a really long time ago, and most of them had a japanese names. Umm have you heard of Team Clamp? I liked a lot of their stuff. I actually still rather think Death Note was good and would have enjoyed the live action movies if I hadn't had to sit through the first one with preteen girls screaming every time light came on screen. There was also... god this was so long ago I can't even remember any of it. None of it really stuck in my brain because it was ultimately more of the same, except the very first ones I watched, Akira and Grave of the Fireflies. I think that's the problem, there is nothing that stands out about any one particular anime.

edit: I said "a lot of" more than one example is required for it to be false.
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« Reply #1796 on: January 05, 2015, 06:13:03 pm »

Okay now, back to western animation. What is Gravity Falls like? If it is similiar to any show, please name it.
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« Reply #1797 on: January 05, 2015, 06:15:28 pm »

I've heard it's pretty good. Only seen the first 5 or so episodes but after the Doug Walker vlogs on them this month I feel like tracking down more of it.
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« Reply #1798 on: January 05, 2015, 06:18:05 pm »

One of the Homestar Runner brothers (Matt Chapman) was involved with it.

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« Reply #1799 on: January 05, 2015, 06:26:22 pm »

What about the blushing? Wasn't there some obvious blushing somewhere?

I might just be underestimating my shipping tendencies.

There were plenty of signs that don't fit what people in... let's say mainstream relationships aren't prepared to detect.

But it started being a thing that looked like more than just teasing between Seasons 3 and 4 (with a few scenes building it up in 3).
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