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[penguinofhonor]

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[Sheb]

I don't know, I had kind of heard there was supposed to be some gay stuff, and I still manage to miss all of it.

[penguinofhonor]

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[Bauglir]

I mean, I agree that the scenes implied romantic interest, but only retrospectively in light of the ending. But that's a legitimate way of storytelling, so it's not like that's a criticism. Surprises that shed new light on past information are kind of a staple thing in fiction. At the time they aired, though, I was pretty sure they were just signs of a close friendship (which isn't exactly contradictory since close friendship and romance have pretty significant overlaps).

[smeeprocket]

iirc the author confirmed they were lesbians. I have not seen the show though. Because it's anime. This is about 'murican cartoons, wtf is this?

[Bauglir]

It's an American show, you see. Although it is animated in Korea, IIRC.

[smeeprocket]

It's an American show, you see. Although it is animated in Korea, IIRC.

all american shows are animated in korea, even the simpsons. But it is still anime. It's that style and such. It is anathema to american cartoons.

[Comrade P.]

It's an American show, you see. Although it is animated in Korea, IIRC.

Amerime.

[WillowLuman]

A lot of American cartoons are animated in Korea.

It's an American show, you see. Although it is animated in Korea, IIRC.

all american shows are animated in korea, even the simpsons. But it is still anime. It's that style and such. It is anathema to american cartoons.

Anime fans for some reason seem to get pissed when people say Avatar is anime. I guess there's some strict definition that it has to be produced in Japan.

And, since the people that produce the show operate in America, and so do the people that came up with the ideas/scripts/etc, it counts as American.

[smeeprocket]

well as an anti-anime american cartoon fan I consider avatar anime, and a half-breed at best.

Although Akira, Grave of the Fireflies, and I guess a few other animes were okay. But most of them are rape-y and awful.

Or maybe I just saw too much urotsuki doji and dragon pink.

[WillowLuman]

Can confirm that Avatar is neither rapey nor awful. And it's style has the more complete talking animation of western stuff, rather than the 2-frame mouth-flapping (which is one of the things that bugs me in Anime).

[Bauglir]

But most of them are rape-y and awful.

Wow. That's... uh... not really accurate at all, provided you stay out of the intentionally-perverted genres.

... And your two examples are apparently porn, so okay there's your first problem. Japanese porn is no more progressive than Western porn, although its dehumanizing quirks are different ones.

Avatar is significantly better at this.

[Comrade P.]

Is that some weird cartoon racism I see?

I used to have prejudice about anime, but now I don't really care if cartoon I'm watching is anime or not. All that matters is whether I like what I'm watching or I don't. Both Last Airbender and Legend of Korra were good shows.

Also I read somewhere that the whole animator crew were forced to watch whole anime titles of Cowboy Bebop-tier while working on Last Airbender exactly to make it look like anime. But that's probably not true.

[smeeprocket]

Is that some weird cartoon racism I see?

I used to have prejudice about anime, but now I don't really care if cartoon I'm watching is anime or not. Both Last Airbender and Legend of Korra were good shows.

Also I read somewhere that the whole animator crew were forced to watch whole anime titles of Cowboy Bebop-tier while working on Last Airbender exactly to make it look like anime. But that's probably not true.

no it's not racism. Not liking a style of animation does not equate to racism. I do not not like anime because it is made by the Japanese, I do not like anime because it sucks and has terrible depictions of women. But mostly because the artstyle is dull as all hell.

Also the urotsuki doji and dragon pink comment was a joke, of course they are porn. The creator of urotsuki doji says he used tentacles (and apparently other than traditional japanese art, this was one of the first uses) because he was forbidden from drawing penises.

[Comrade P.]

Okay, I see your point now. You should probably watch more Ghibli creations.