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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Gravity Falls returns this week!
« Reply #1395 on: February 21, 2013, 01:53:10 am »

The newest Gravity Falls was hilarious, for anyone watching that.

Adventure Time too. It turns out Marhsall Lee's voice actor was still sweet.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Gravity Falls returns this week!
« Reply #1396 on: February 21, 2013, 02:48:04 am »

Honestly Avatar has always been fuzzy on what exactly allows people to bend.
The only thing I know about this topic is that people weren't born with the ability to bend. It actually had to be learned.
It begs the question as to why people without bending cannot be initiated into bending.
From what I understand it's a combination of spirituality and genetics.  You're either born with the capacity to bend, or you're not, but your parents are the deciding factor (for example the Air Nomads, a culture of high spirituality, had a 100% bender birth rate, and being airbenders the children were airbenders too).  When you have mixed-race pairings the children are born able to bend only one of the elements of their parents, if any (Aang and Katara had one airbending child, one waterbending child, and one non-bending child).  There's even cases in otherwise identical twins where one is a bender and one is not.
Also I've heard that there's word of god confirming Sokka had the "waterbending gene" but due to his lack of spirituality never discovered that particular talent of his.
This'll probably all be addressed in greater detail once book two of Korra ("Spirits") is out.  Sometime this year, officially, so probably in three years or so real time.

Wow, if I'd posted this anywhere else I'd look like a huge geek- well, actually, I guess I still do :P
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Gravity Falls returns this week!
« Reply #1397 on: February 21, 2013, 03:11:54 am »

My personal oppinion is that it isn't a gene at all.

It was something created by the first benders that "alligns" people at birth to certain elements.

Yet that... isn't supported

Honestly I thought that Aang's children would have ended up being able to use one of any of the four elements.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Why you ackin' so cray cray?
« Reply #1398 on: February 21, 2013, 04:40:14 am »

Doctus and I watched Boss Mabel tonight and were quite amused. A good episode that highlights Mabel and Stan's characters, along with humiliating Dipper in funny ways.

Dipper's a fine character but gets a bit too much screen time usually. It was good to see him screw up with his captured monster. My only complaint for this episode is that he defeated the monster and not Mabel at the end.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Why you ackin' so cray cray?
« Reply #1399 on: February 21, 2013, 04:55:19 am »

Dipper's a fine character but gets a bit too much screen time usually. It was good to see him screw up with his captured monster. My only complaint for this episode is that he defeated the monster and not Mabel at the end.

That's because fighting Mabel is a losing prospect.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Why you ackin' so cray cray?
« Reply #1400 on: February 21, 2013, 06:02:49 am »

I think he meant Mabel should have defeated the monster.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Why you ackin' so cray cray?
« Reply #1401 on: February 21, 2013, 06:41:14 am »

I think he meant Mabel should have defeated the monster.

Right... I uh... I knew that.  :-[
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Why you ackin' so cray cray?
« Reply #1402 on: February 21, 2013, 11:56:48 am »

I decided to watch two Animaniacs episodes this morning.
"Draculee, Dracula" was a Warners short and was hilarious watching them torment the poor guy, and they certainly got mileage out of the Pennsylvania/Transylvania gag. :D (14 minutes)
"Phranken Runt" was a Rita & Runt episode; not a bad one either.  Nothing spectacular though. (7 minutes)

"Hot, Bothered, and Bedeviled" was about the Warners visiting hell and dealing with Satan; kind of hit and miss. (7 minutes)
"Moon Over Minerva" A Minerva Mink short...just, wow.  I can't believe this episode passed the censors. (7 minutes)
"Skullhead Boneyhands"-There was one joke they could have made, and that was it.  Pretty dull. (7 minutes)
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Gravity Falls returns this week!
« Reply #1403 on: February 21, 2013, 09:00:25 pm »

Honestly Avatar has always been fuzzy on what exactly allows people to bend.
The only thing I know about this topic is that people weren't born with the ability to bend. It actually had to be learned.
It begs the question as to why people without bending cannot be initiated into bending.
From what I understand it's a combination of spirituality and genetics.  You're either born with the capacity to bend, or you're not, but your parents are the deciding factor (for example the Air Nomads, a culture of high spirituality, had a 100% bender birth rate, and being airbenders the children were airbenders too).  When you have mixed-race pairings the children are born able to bend only one of the elements of their parents, if any (Aang and Katara had one airbending child, one waterbending child, and one non-bending child).  There's even cases in otherwise identical twins where one is a bender and one is not.
Also I've heard that there's word of god confirming Sokka had the "waterbending gene" but due to his lack of spirituality never discovered that particular talent of his.
This'll probably all be addressed in greater detail once book two of Korra ("Spirits") is out.  Sometime this year, officially, so probably in three years or so real time.

Wow, if I'd posted this anywhere else I'd look like a huge geek- well, actually, I guess I still do :P

That genetic thing, I think was something invented by fans through fan wank. Its a martial art with magic kabooms. There are many public schools with /open/ registration, which greatly implies that anyone and everyone can learn, though some may take longer then others. 

All of the origin of the bending, required learning it form nature, not from selective fucking.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Gravity Falls returns this week!
« Reply #1404 on: February 21, 2013, 10:52:12 pm »

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That genetic thing, I think was something invented by fans through fan wank. Its a martial art with magic kabooms. There are many public schools with /open/ registration, which greatly implies that anyone and everyone can learn, though some may take longer then others. 

All of the origin of the bending, required learning it form nature, not from selective fucking.

But that doesn't make sense, because we know that only the Avatar is able to learn all 4 elements and if it was possible to just pick up bending (without spirit intervention) we'd have seen at least some other benders practicing. Pema was also specifically hoping for a child that wouldn't be an airbender which strongly implies it's inherited. The schools would be for those with bending to improve on their natural ability.

Heck, The Legend of Korra (Season 1) focuses all around the fact that some people can bend while others cannot, so if it was some kind of skill I'd be very surprised.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Why you ackin' so cray cray?
« Reply #1405 on: February 21, 2013, 11:10:21 pm »

It is likely that once you learn bending you allign yourself to that element. That allignment which is passed onto your children.
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« Reply #1406 on: February 21, 2013, 11:19:45 pm »

Well when Aang meets the magic turtle he learns all about spirit bending, and how "Before we bent elements, we bent spirits" and then does something to Aang which may only have been some kind of demonstration that unlocked something he could already do, but didn't know about, or may actually have bent his spirit to give him the ability to bend spirits... Which sort of implied something different to me.

So we know that the avatar is reincarnated right? It's the same spirit every time and the spirit has to pass on from the world before it can go back into it and be born into another tribe. What I was thinking is that maybe this was true for pretty much everyone... Here's my hypothetical scenario:

What if way back when in the beginning of time everyone could bend all four elements thanks to the great gods/spirits/whatever... however this proved to be a bit too much power for them, so the spirits in their great wisdom decided to limit everyone's powers to one of the four elements. But then seperating all the people into four groups drives everyone to conflict, so they create the avatar, who is supposed to be a kind of mediator between all the different benders. Time passes on and the four tribes begin to develop into unique cultures, bending passes on through reincarnation of the first people, but since there's a limited pool of bending souls, not everyone is born a bender, this might also lend some explanation to the geneology thing.
I was thinking that maybe the reason why you seem to get these strong bending families that inherit bending despite it seemingly being very random is because bending souls are all snooty and prefer ones that are genelogically more related to them, so more "pureblood" families are more likely to draw a bending soul. Whereas the peasants who seem to have less benders per capita are like that because they've intermixed.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Why you ackin' so cray cray?
« Reply #1407 on: February 22, 2013, 12:34:23 am »

I think it's possible to learn bending if you're one with nature enough to bond with the animals that can bend. Humanity is too far from it now, though, so only those with a natural aptitude towards it can learn it from humans.
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« Reply #1408 on: February 25, 2013, 01:35:58 am »

In terms of Young Justice I think my absolute favorite side character is Gordon Godfrey.

I think I am inlove with him.

I honestly thought he was supposed to be a Glenn Beck Parody at first but he makes constantly good points.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Why you ackin' so cray cray?
« Reply #1409 on: February 25, 2013, 11:12:54 am »

I was happy about Godfrey ripping into the reach too.  :)  Earlier I wasn't sure if he was just a puppet of the reach, but now its confirmed that he isn't.  :)

Although he COULD still be a puppet of Lex Luthor's...
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