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[Sonlirain]

Since i'm not willing to plow through the entire thread to check if the opionion i want to voice was already covered by someone else i feel no responsibility what-so-ever in the likely event i'm doubling someone else.


My Little Pony vs Littlest Pet Shop

MLP are most know became a smash hit way beyopn the wildest expectations of its authors and owners.
Now that S3 is starting and seems to barely loose any steam (if not gaining it).
Hasbro of coursse is cashing in on the succes with figurines and adds on HUB and seems to try repeating the succes.
First the reboot of carebears that was mostly a flop (tho some say it did gain it's own fans).
And now LPS was taken for a spin but this time it seems to be almost completely tailored to make people already watching MLP watch LPS as well.

1 - LPS episodes start right after MLP.
2 - Some characters seem to be expies of the "Mane 6" with extra credit for Zoe Trent for sharing an identical color sheme (down to the stripe) with Twilight Sparkle AND being voiced by Tara Strong (again like Twilight Sparkle) (Correstion Zoe is voiced by Nicole Oliver... who did the voice for Cheerilee and Celestia) AND being given the similar role of being a prominent character (again like Twilight Sparkle) along with several other characters also voiced by VAs who work on MLP:FiM.
3 - Hired some of the same writers.
4 - Some adds for LPS are full of pony.
5 - It will most likely retain the same character driven one episode long storylines (Not unlike MLP)


Am i the only person thinking Hasbro just desperately tries to make thunder strike the same spot 2 times?

[kaijyuu]

Am i the only person thinking Hasbro just desperately tries to make thunder strike the same spot 2 times?

Maybe. But also remember that imitators can improve upon original formulas.

I'm still happy they're trying to shoot for additional demographics in a little girl's show. That means people are starting to take the genre seriously, instead of spewing substanceless crap like they have for like 30 years.

[Neonivek]

30 years! But... ohh wait... that would mean substance for girls shows existed in the 80s.

Ok then nevermind.

Mind you whether or not Jem really fits in that category is up to someone who has watched it. Its worst aspects was when it was being too childish but its best features is when it chose to be deep.

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Also I know it was limiting but I kinda liked the fact that the Sword of Omens actually couldn't be used superfluously (for example Lion-O in the original series tried to hunt Deer with it and the sword rejected it).

The new series has him use it all over the place for any reason. Ohh well it isn't a bad thing... The plotholes in the new Thundercats as well as the very odd blending of two genres is an issue. (ohh goodness can I pick out plotholes. From characters learning skills they never had to just how the Sword of Omens works changing episode to episode)

[Neonivek]

I am so disapointed

The new Thundercats started off so well but it is like each episode is slightly worse then the last.

It wouldn't be so bad but honestly I sort of like how they present the world, it is one of the few wonderous worlds outside comedies and Avatar.

I think my problem is that I cannot turn my brain off.

It is like... I WANT to like it because it actually tries, by goodness it is trying... but I cannot get by a single episode without having something HUGE to point out.

For example

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

At the start they outright state that "Technology" is so mythological that believing it exists is almost like believing in bigfoot.

Yet not even that far away there are robots, cars, and stuff. Better yet as soon as it shows up EVERYONE has technological prowress... some of which goes unexplained.

Honestly sometimes I feel like they wanted to pretend the first episode didn't exist.

[MrWiggles]

So, according to Word of God, Gravity Falls is on a year plus pause. ;.;

[Reelya]

Look at it this way, if they put something on pause rather than make 1 years worth of filler, they care about quality.

[Sirus]

Or they ran out of money.

[kaijyuu]

So, according to Word of God, Gravity Falls is on a year plus pause. ;.;

Holy shit, I thought that was just a typo.

D:

[Glowcat]

So, according to Word of God, Gravity Falls is on a year plus pause. ;.;

W-what? ...Somebody hold me. 

[penguinofhonor]

Was it getting bad numbers or something? I feel like I would have known if this sort of stuff was going to happen.

[Neonivek]

Was it getting bad numbers or something? I feel like I would have known if this sort of stuff was going to happen.

Well it could be "Invader Zim" numbers.

As in yes it got a lot of viewers, but none of them may have been in the age group the show desired.

[Reelya]

Harmony Gold had the age problem with Robotech (which was a foreign adaptation, but heavily modified), they totally thought 8 year olds were going to get into it ("cartoons" u know ) so they rolled out all this 8-year-old style "bling". Which, since the main viewers were 15+ didn't sell at all.

[Neonivek]

There are sort of two ways a "popular" kids show can have problems outside of production.

1) The audiance is not the age of the advertisers or products being marketed towards the user
2) The Toy sales involved with that show sold badly.

Invader Zim suffered from #1. (Cancelled because the show was popular but not to children)

Jem suffered from #2. (Cancelled because the show was popular but the toys were unpopular)

Robotech as Reelya said suffered from both. (Popular to adults who wouldn't buy their toys and not to children who would)

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I forgot a few more
3) The show competes with other shows by the same channel or company (Battlestar Galactica or Babylon 5, I forget, had this problem... it wasn't a cartoon or for kids)

[Mageziya]

Look on the bright side, the show isn't canceled for sure, just on hiatus.

Shame when this happens though. What too good for Disney? Or did the hysteria over Illuminati/Freemason references cause this?

Or maybe that too many people were watching it online to avoid the terribad commercials.

In a bit of irony, I still have yet to actually watch the most recent episode.

[Neonivek]

In the disney channel where I am there are no commercials during it.

The problem is with this that they don't put it in a good timeslot.

Adventure time actually started to get good timeslots (different channel) once its popularity risen.

The problem with "Indefinite" pauses... is it could just be cancelled without actually declairing it cancelled.