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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Happy Summerween!
« Reply #1065 on: November 04, 2012, 12:33:26 am »

"You should know better"? Dude, the show is absolutely filled to the brim with morals. Of course characters are going to learn lessons.
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« Reply #1066 on: November 04, 2012, 12:36:35 am »

"You should know better"? Dude, the show is absolutely filled to the brim with morals. Of course characters are going to learn lessons.

Not talking about morals I am talking about flagrant stupidity. Characters needing to learn something they didn't know and characters not knowing something they should know are two different things.

"Ohh where did you get that book?"

"It was under the letter E"

really... this is going to be the show isn't it?

"Ohh no monster! I'll stop it by jumping infront of its most deadly attack! good thing this was a children's cartoon or else this idea, that I should know better about, would have got me killed"

You all deserve to be DEAD!

"I am the Antagonist!... ohh who cares anymore"

Why!?! Why does this exist?
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Happy Summerween!
« Reply #1067 on: November 04, 2012, 12:58:45 am »

Has anyone else seen Wreck-It Ralph? It reminded me of an extended version of Fight Fighters. Just as well-written, just as good of a mix of original humor and references, but several times as long.

Yes and it was an enjoyable film, although I did get nerd-annoyed by how it treated game code. But it seems silly to argue about that given the presence of AIs who travel in power cords and live inside arcade machines.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Happy Summerween!
« Reply #1068 on: November 04, 2012, 07:24:20 am »

"You should know better"? Dude, the show is absolutely filled to the brim with morals. Of course characters are going to learn lessons.

Not talking about morals I am talking about flagrant stupidity. Characters needing to learn something they didn't know and characters not knowing something they should know are two different things.

"Ohh where did you get that book?"

"It was under the letter E"

really... this is going to be the show isn't it?

I don't have much to say to defend this, really. I don't remember exactly where this scene is (first episode? second episode?) but yeah, I can agree that at times there's moments that make me want to smack my forehead. Take it with a grain of salt, though, since the first season was originally made and intended for the "young girl" demographic. The team didn't know the show would become such a hit. To be fair though, I think that some people may find moments like these to be a part of the show's charm.

Season 2 gets better about these "cringing moments", in my opinion.

"Ohh no monster! I'll stop it by jumping infront of its most deadly attack! good thing this was a children's cartoon or else this idea, that I should know better about, would have got me killed"

You all deserve to be DEAD!

Action movies and scenes like that always have bits like this that seem beyond logical reasoning.

"I am the Antagonist!... ohh who cares anymore"

Why!?! Why does this exist?

I don't recall anything like this from the show. Assuming this is referencing to Nightmare Moon?

Generally, it helps to remember the MST3K Mantra.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Happy Summerween!
« Reply #1069 on: November 04, 2012, 08:57:13 am »

"You should know better"? Dude, the show is absolutely filled to the brim with morals. Of course characters are going to learn lessons.

Not talking about morals I am talking about flagrant stupidity. Characters needing to learn something they didn't know and characters not knowing something they should know are two different things.

"Ohh where did you get that book?"

"It was under the letter E"

really... this is going to be the show isn't it?

I don't have much to say to defend this, really. I don't remember exactly where this scene is (first episode? second episode?) but yeah, I can agree that at times there's moments that make me want to smack my forehead. Take it with a grain of salt, though, since the first season was originally made and intended for the "young girl" demographic. The team didn't know the show would become such a hit. To be fair though, I think that some people may find moments like these to be a part of the show's charm.

Season 2 gets better about these "cringing moments", in my opinion.
Honestly I find these moments rather realistic. A stressed out person is rather likely to make such a silly mistake, and of course our local happy go lucky person will find the obvious solution.

Not many shows capture people being organically illogical.
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« Reply #1070 on: November 04, 2012, 09:32:38 am »

"You should know better"? Dude, the show is absolutely filled to the brim with morals. Of course characters are going to learn lessons.

Not talking about morals I am talking about flagrant stupidity. Characters needing to learn something they didn't know and characters not knowing something they should know are two different things.

"Ohh where did you get that book?"

"It was under the letter E"

really... this is going to be the show isn't it?

I don't have much to say to defend this, really. I don't remember exactly where this scene is (first episode? second episode?) but yeah, I can agree that at times there's moments that make me want to smack my forehead. Take it with a grain of salt, though, since the first season was originally made and intended for the "young girl" demographic. The team didn't know the show would become such a hit. To be fair though, I think that some people may find moments like these to be a part of the show's charm.

Add me to those people. It's really one of those shows where it's partly genuine enjoyment and partly laughing at its corniness. It wouldn't be the same without those moments. Anyway, why are we allowed to talk about that show again?

Anyway, the reason I came here is because I spent the last few days watching the entirety of justice league unlimited for the first time. Plotholes aside, I loved it. The fights were fun to watch, the stories were as cheesy as usual for comics, and now I have about 24 different favorite super heroes.
Too bad the final ended on such an anticlimatic Deus Ex Machina and that so many plots weren't really resolved.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Happy Summerween!
« Reply #1071 on: November 04, 2012, 09:36:18 am »

Dude, all I'm gonna say is, chill.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Happy Summerween!
« Reply #1072 on: November 04, 2012, 09:44:15 am »

Anyway, why are we allowed to talk about that show again?
Oh, right >.>

Keep the MLP discussion technical. I'm fine with Neo's analysis but if we wanna really debate stuff, take it to the offsite pony forum.

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Anyway, the reason I came here is because I spent the last few days watching the entirety of justice league unlimited for the first time. Plotholes aside, I loved it. The fights were fun to watch, the stories were as cheesy as usual for comics, and now I have about 24 different favorite super heroes.
Too bad the final ended on such an anticlimatic Deus Ex Machina and that so many plots weren't really resolved.
Fuck yes, awesome series. Season 4 (or 2, if just counting unlimited) is incredible. Season 3's okay (and contains probably my favorite episode -- the one with Flash, Batman, and Orion) but not quite as good.
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« Reply #1073 on: November 04, 2012, 10:19:39 am »

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Assuming this is referencing to Nightmare Moon?

Yeah I found it very odd that she was the antagonist at all if all she needed was a smack and a "Look, just stop being evil will ya?"

Admittingly I think there was more going on then the show shown (unless... this is just one of those "Look, lets just end this plotline" situations)

Also WOW did Princess Celestia's plan require A LOT to actually work. The sheer bulk of coincidence required was practically psychic.

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The fights were fun to watch

At the time when I was watching JLA I was watching a lot of anime and was sick and tired of "Will battles". It was actually very refreshing to me.
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« Reply #1074 on: November 04, 2012, 05:30:09 pm »

Saw Wreck-It Ralph today. SO MANY REFERENCES. Even the Konami Code!
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Happy Summerween!
« Reply #1075 on: November 04, 2012, 06:59:36 pm »

Wait... Wreck-it Ralph, as in that computer animated movie I saw a short 30-second trailer for on TV? The trailer that completely failed to garner my interest since all it was was some quotes from critics and no real description on what the heck the movie even is about?

*googles Wreck-It Ralph*

*sees this trailer*

Holy cow man. Dat animation...those references!...powered armor and sci-fi alien shooters and laser effects?! HNNNNNNNNNG---they had me at Bowser, Clyde, and Eggman at the BAD-ANON meeting. The rest of the trailer just further sucked me in.

EDIT:derped the link. curse this cold!
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« Reply #1076 on: November 04, 2012, 07:00:45 pm »

Your link is missing a few bits of itself :P
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« Reply #1077 on: November 04, 2012, 08:23:19 pm »

Without wishing to spoil too much, they even had Sonic the Hedgehog doing a PSA like he did in his old cartoon. So much freaking nostalgia. The animated short they had before the movie itself was pretty good as well, almost 2.5-D.
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« Reply #1078 on: November 04, 2012, 08:24:07 pm »

Your link is missing a few bits of itself :P

I was blinded by the mass of nerdy awesome.
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« Reply #1079 on: November 05, 2012, 03:06:35 am »

Haha, dude, no militant bronies here. Feel free to rip it to shreds if you don't like it.

Telgin cancels incite riot: can't find pitchfork.

Just kidding.  :)

Yeah, as I noted not every episode was a hit for me, and it didn't really catch on for me with the first two episodes.  The intro made me cringe, as I'm sure it did for most viewers.  I managed to get reasonably interested by the third or fourth episode, but the fandom is what really drew me into the series and let me look past the initial wave of girliness.  One of the pony threads on this board is what really did it for me.  The cute/sad pictures really sucked me in for some reason.

I also agree with the earlier sentiment that part of the charm is the corniness that seeps up from time to time.  I've remarked before that I'd love to see a much darker MLP, but as has been pointed out to me a lot of the charm is the fact that it's not dark like that.

Anyway, getting off the pony train before it ends up drawing us along on a ride that ends up with passenger casualties and Toady getting involved, I'm reasonably interested in Wreck-It Ralph.  I fear my inner nerd would nitpick it apart though, especially if it got things obviously wrong in a game I'm a fan of.
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