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MrWiggles

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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Happy Summerween!
« Reply #1005 on: October 14, 2012, 12:04:57 am »

I really like the name Hudson Aberdeer.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Happy Summerween!
« Reply #1006 on: October 14, 2012, 01:50:39 am »

I know that Finn's canonical (I.E stated within the show) alignment is Lawful Good and that Jake's is probably neutral-chaotic good, and that Flame Princess and Flame King both are evil, and that Hudson Aberdeer is Chaotic Evil.

The show really simplifies good versus evil though mind you.

A lot of the most evil creatures in the show are actually outright beneign.

And one of the most chaotic creatures are actually extremely lawful. (That episode seemed like a Satire on Chaotic kingdoms)

Also though I am one of the few people who do this... I like to say "Neutral Leaning Evil" and "Neutral Leaning Good" a lot of the time to explain characters who's motivations are not good or evil, but would chose good or evil if they had to. Ice King for example is Chaotic Neutral leaning evil. While Vampira is Chaotic Neutral leaning good.

Mind you the Ice King outright doesn't want to do any evil. He doesn't want to really hurt anyone and often seems oblivious to how he is hurting them. So "Leaning Evil" is probably not a good way to describe his leaning.

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Watching Ultimate Spiderman

Hating it and Liking it at the same time. The problem I am having is that Spiderman is so terrible most of the time.

He doesn't act like a person who was a super hero for over a year, he is acting like a kid who is being asked to clean his room. It sometimes takes a while for him to feel like Spiderman.

Ben 10 the original series for example had Ben be a very egotistical, prideful, and childish character... but when Gwen got super powers he didn't get jealous or start complaining because he been through experiences where he needed back up that just didn't exist. This is great characterisation. He isn't any less childish but he feels like an organic character. It is why a lot of people prefer the kid Ben to the Teen Ben.

Along with this there are just so few concequences in Ultimate Spiderman. He will do the most horrific and outlandish things sometimes and no one will ever speak of it again.

I don't want to go into a rant because I havn't given up on the series. I feel like it is building up to something but I just don't know to what. If this is just an episodic action series with no real story... or if it is just sleeping and waiting to hit you with story bombs.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Happy Summerween!
« Reply #1007 on: October 14, 2012, 12:13:49 pm »

I know that Finn's canonical (I.E stated within the show) alignment is Lawful Good and that Jake's is probably neutral-chaotic good, and that Flame Princess and Flame King both are evil, and that Hudson Aberdeer is Chaotic Evil.

The show really simplifies good versus evil though mind you.

A lot of the most evil creatures in the show are actually outright beneign.

And one of the most chaotic creatures are actually extremely lawful. (That episode seemed like a Satire on Chaotic kingdoms)

Haha, yeah, I noticed that. I was thinking "the amulet fills you with Chaotic Evil? How the hell does a chaotic evil person rule anything?"

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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Happy Summerween!
« Reply #1008 on: October 14, 2012, 02:41:50 pm »

What the heck CN! You air two episodes of Young Justice and then put it on another hiatus until January? WHAT THE HECK
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Happy Summerween!
« Reply #1009 on: October 14, 2012, 02:43:36 pm »

Two episodes? Man, I thought Mystery Incorporated was bad, with it's ~12 episodes followed by 8 month hiatuses.

Telling that both these shows are on CN. Dammit Cartoon Network, why do you suck so much.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Happy Summerween!
« Reply #1010 on: October 14, 2012, 02:45:22 pm »

Do you know why they put it on hiatus?
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Happy Summerween!
« Reply #1011 on: October 14, 2012, 03:18:12 pm »

Fuck. Its really on hiatus again?
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Happy Summerween!
« Reply #1012 on: October 14, 2012, 03:31:14 pm »

Yep, though the weirdest part is that Wikipedia says that the episodes are still being released on iTunes at a normal schedule
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Happy Summerween!
« Reply #1013 on: October 14, 2012, 05:45:34 pm »

'tis the season for Treehouse of Horror reruns.

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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Happy Summerween!
« Reply #1014 on: October 14, 2012, 09:35:45 pm »

Haha, yeah, that's one of the better ones.

Best Treehouse is still the Shinning/time traveling toaster/cannibal cafeteria one.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Happy Summerween!
« Reply #1015 on: October 15, 2012, 12:14:30 am »

Admittingly I never get tired of some of the better Simpson reruns.

Heck The Simpson Christmas Episode where he gets Santa's little helper is practically a classic in my eyes.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Happy Summerween!
« Reply #1016 on: October 15, 2012, 12:16:57 am »

It's also the first episode they aired, isn't it? It's pretty good.
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For, in order that men should resist injustice, something more is necessary than that they should think injustice unpleasant. They must think injustice absurd; above all, they must think it startling. They must retain the violence of a virgin astonishment. When the pessimist looks at any infamy, it is to him, after all, only a repetition of the infamy of existence. But the optimist sees injustice as something discordant and unexpected, and it stings him into action.

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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Happy Summerween!
« Reply #1017 on: October 15, 2012, 12:19:04 am »

It's also the first episode they aired, isn't it? It's pretty good.

It was back when The Simpsons actually had heart.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Happy Summerween!
« Reply #1018 on: October 15, 2012, 12:20:37 am »

Some of the later stuff is good. Emphasis on "some." :P
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For, in order that men should resist injustice, something more is necessary than that they should think injustice unpleasant. They must think injustice absurd; above all, they must think it startling. They must retain the violence of a virgin astonishment. When the pessimist looks at any infamy, it is to him, after all, only a repetition of the infamy of existence. But the optimist sees injustice as something discordant and unexpected, and it stings him into action.

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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Happy Summerween!
« Reply #1019 on: October 15, 2012, 12:23:01 am »

Some of the later stuff is good. Emphasis on "some." :P

For sure, some of the newer episodes seem to be struggling to remember what the Simpson heart was and sort of get it halfright too. It is like the Simpsons is actually starting to come full circle and is just starting to recover the sort of magic it once had, with characters who had heart and obviously loved eachother.

It is just that the frequency of good new episodes is kinda low.
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