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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Insert Short Joke Here
« Reply #930 on: September 29, 2012, 07:41:07 pm »
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Basically... Gravity Falls is starting to become a lot like Sunny Dale in the sense that the place is CLEARLY supernatural... Openly... easy to find

Yet it is somehow secret.

Why is the supernatural not world known?

This is my biggest gripe with any urban contemporary fantasy. Generally it pisses me and I find it insulting.

But with Gravity Fall, we havent seen them actually deny that the world is super natural around them. Only Gruncle Stan has denied it, but we know that Stan is not what he seems.
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« Reply #931 on: October 01, 2012, 08:00:26 pm »
I watched a LOT of Starwars Clone wars and its problem is still present in that it is a Prequil

I WISH the creators would just wave their hands and go "Ok, things can go differently here then it did in the movies". There are soo many points where I go "Well this is pointless because we know what is going to happen" or I go "Well they are going to lose because they are against someone who was alive in the show" (It gets ESPECIALLY painful when someone gets a painful victory only for it to be reversed because "Well the movies couldn't happen otherwise")

Usually a Prequil works if it is about something else or if it is about the details that went into it before the main continuity.

However neither of those works because we know exactly what happens and the series is too long for it to be a short interspective.
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« Reply #932 on: October 01, 2012, 08:15:51 pm »
I haven't seen much of that, but it had good fight scenes and animation from what I've watched. Animated by the same guys who made Samurai Jack, iirc.
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« Reply #933 on: October 01, 2012, 08:21:05 pm »
Assuming you're talking about the older cartoon instead of the (imho) rubbish CGI series, I believe you're right.
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« Reply #934 on: October 01, 2012, 08:22:26 pm »
Quote from: Sirus on October 01, 2012, 08:21:05 pm
Assuming you're talking about the older cartoon instead of the (imho) rubbish CGI series, I believe you're right.

Sorry I am refering to the CGI rubbish.

The Older Cartoon was perfectly fine. If anything it was better then the 3rd movie.
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« Reply #935 on: October 01, 2012, 08:24:08 pm »
Ah, I haven't seen any of the CGI rubbish. :P

And I believe most star wars fans agree the old cartoon was better than all of the prequels.
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« Reply #936 on: October 01, 2012, 08:25:20 pm »
I will say that the older cartoon did manage to make the 3rd movie worse by giving us expectations.

Ohh how painful it was to watch how easily some of the series greatest villains killed in such pathetic ways.
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« Reply #937 on: October 01, 2012, 08:27:05 pm »
That's the problem. There were like, three different Clone Wars animated series. The first one was animated in a very similar style to Samurai Jack, the second was CGI and more of a mini-series, and then there was the last one, also CGI, which featured that Jedi kid.

* Sirus is one of the few Star Wars fans who found the prequel movie series at least tolerable.
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« Reply #938 on: October 01, 2012, 08:29:22 pm »
The first two were fine if you took them as their own... with the first being a set up, the second thickening the plot, and the third being a steaming pile of disapointment.

It was like the third was made out of disapointment.

Even if you ENTIRELY ignored the movies that weren't the prequils the third kills the prequil series simply by being incompetent storywise.
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« Reply #939 on: October 01, 2012, 08:34:39 pm »
* kaijyuu actually liked the third best.

#1 was stupid entertainment. #2 is plain boring. #3 was badly written but you could at least get the gist of what they were trying to do.
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For, in order that men should resist injustice, something more is necessary than that they should think injustice unpleasant. They must think injustice absurd; above all, they must think it startling. They must retain the violence of a virgin astonishment. When the pessimist looks at any infamy, it is to him, after all, only a repetition of the infamy of existence. But the optimist sees injustice as something discordant and unexpected, and it stings him into action.

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« Reply #940 on: October 01, 2012, 08:36:16 pm »
Quote from: kaijyuu on October 01, 2012, 08:34:39 pm
* kaijyuu actually liked the third best.

#1 was stupid entertainment. #2 is plain boring. #3 was badly written but you could at least get the gist of what they were trying to do.

I guess what hurt the third for me was that I had expectations (or rather investment)... and I am not being sarcastic

If I had no disapointments, if I absolutely did not care about the story or weight of the story... it would have worked.

It wouldn't be disapointing death after disapointing death.
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« Reply #941 on: October 01, 2012, 08:38:21 pm »
Honestly, I don't watch the prequels for the plot. I watch them for the glorious battle scenes!

Especially the space battles. Realism be damned, I still nerd out when watching the Battle of Endor and can quote many of the lines verbatim :P
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« Reply #942 on: October 01, 2012, 08:46:38 pm »
http://www.nomachetejuggling.com/2011/11/11/the-star-wars-saga-suggested-viewing-order/

I believe this was brought up in some thread over here. Basically, if you actually acknowledge the prequels as a thing, watch in IV, V, II, III, VI order. And do something entertaining with Phantom Menace.

Anyways, isn't this drifting a little off topic? Although, come to think about it, talking about the prequels is pretty much talking about Western animation.
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« Reply #943 on: October 01, 2012, 08:48:59 pm »
The original topic was the CGI Clonewars show.
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« Reply #944 on: October 01, 2012, 08:49:33 pm »
Quote from: RedWarrior0 on October 01, 2012, 08:46:38 pm
Although, come to think about it, talking about the prequels is pretty much talking about Western animation.
D'oh ho ho :P
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For, in order that men should resist injustice, something more is necessary than that they should think injustice unpleasant. They must think injustice absurd; above all, they must think it startling. They must retain the violence of a virgin astonishment. When the pessimist looks at any infamy, it is to him, after all, only a repetition of the infamy of existence. But the optimist sees injustice as something discordant and unexpected, and it stings him into action.
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