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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Pixar 'n stuff
« Reply #570 on: July 13, 2012, 02:17:56 pm »

Well it's not like he could've until after he'd built his empire and started searching for heroes. He still didn't know where Elastigirl was until she showed up on his island. And besides, an apology's not what he really wanted; he wanted to prove why he was right in the first place and what it'd take to change Mr Incredible's opinion (which is what he did).


As for the mooks, yeah they weren't the nicest people but no one in this movie is. The assistant lady is certainly guilty of far more than they are and she gets sympathy from the characters. The humanization came from when they took off their masks (remember a big part of dehumanizing mooks is obscuring their faces, ala stormtroopers and such), when they popped the champagne near the end, etc. They were people, and the movie pointed that out. And you certainly could make a case for self defense for all the on-screen deaths (that I remember anyway), the heroes weren't too broken up over it. Wasn't Dash laughing when he was running from some (and blowing them up) when they first landed on the island?
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Pixar 'n stuff
« Reply #571 on: July 13, 2012, 02:33:02 pm »

I disagree, I think he could have gotten a more positive response from Mr. Incredible if he had written a letter after a week or so, you know, when Mr. Incredible had calmed down and wasn't in the middle of multiple crises.

I do agree about the assistant lady (Mirage). She was guilty of quite a few things and should not have gotten away with it. I assume that she either struck some sort of plea bargain for immunity or simply disappeared.

The mooks popped champagne in celebration of death and destruction. Sorry, but they still deserved to have their asses kicked by Mr. I.

Mr. and Mrs. I have been superheroes for quite some time, and I have probably come to terms with death (both of their enemies and friends). The only time I remember Dash laughing was when he started running over water, because he probably assumed that he wouldn't be able to do so. Most of the rest of the time he looked scared half out of his mind. Any other giddiness could be explained by an adrenaline high from escaping certain death and using his powers to their full extent for the first time. That said, I think he'd be the best candidate for becoming an Anti-Hero or even outright villain later in life, as he's highly competitive and may come to relish the idea of surviving while his opponents die.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Pixar 'n stuff
« Reply #572 on: July 13, 2012, 02:59:51 pm »

Mirage had a change of heart (Odd she didn't have it during all the murdering of heros). It was more then possible she was arrested or simply got away but I am fine with that... If she got away she wasn't going to be doing anything (or heck she could have been the villain of the second movie if they ever made it). She just wasn't all that important and frankly I don't think she was all that well developed. Her change of heart felt more driven by the fact that Mr. Incredible wasn't abusive more then any sort of moral epiphany.

Also yes I do agree that at heart Syndrome was right. The world would have been better had everyone had access to super powers, it is at heart what our drive for new technology is for (The improvement and betterment of all)

His problem is less that he is a psycho and more that he is a hypocrit. Remember that he was always planning on keeping the best stuff for himself, essentially making himself the only super hero on earth. He essentially in his villainy betrayed his whole purpose, bending his vision to suit his own purposes.

Also yes the entire point of Syndrome was the fact that in reality had he simply spoken to Mr. Incredible and asked for an appology he probably would have got it. Irrational need for revenge isn't uncommon.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Pixar 'n stuff
« Reply #573 on: July 14, 2012, 05:43:00 pm »

So, there has been a leakage of what the characters will look like next chapter in the Legend of Korra book two: Spirits at the San Diego Comic Con. Along with the character designs, there were little bits of information let out; Mako becoming a cop, Bolin finding his own path and possibly leading the fire ferrets (and another possibility of him having a potential love interest) and Korra visiting the spirit world.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Pixar 'n stuff
« Reply #574 on: July 14, 2012, 05:55:35 pm »

So, there has been a leakage of what the characters will look like next chapter in the Legend of Korra book two: Spirits at the San Diego Comic Con. Along with the character designs, there were little bits of information let out; Mako becoming a cop, Bolin finding his own path and possibly leading the fire ferrets (and another possibility of him having a potential love interest) and Korra visiting the spirit world.
This is good news.  There wasn't enough spiritual stuff in the first season, I thought, though I STILL haven't finished it (hopefully I'll finish it tonight).  If Koh doesn't return I'll be pissed.
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« Reply #575 on: July 14, 2012, 06:00:02 pm »

So, there has been a leakage of what the characters will look like next chapter in the Legend of Korra book two: Spirits at the San Diego Comic Con. Along with the character designs, there were little bits of information let out; Mako becoming a cop, Bolin finding his own path and possibly leading the fire ferrets (and another possibility of him having a potential love interest) and Korra visiting the spirit world.
This is good news.  There wasn't enough spiritual stuff in the first season, I thought, though I STILL haven't finished it (hopefully I'll finish it tonight).  If Koh doesn't return I'll be pissed.

That is mostly because as they mentioned the spirits made an exodus... mind you it does feel like the Avatar REALLY doesn't do the job it was created for... in fact almost at all.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Pixar 'n stuff
« Reply #576 on: July 14, 2012, 08:13:57 pm »

Hey, so the spirit theorists were right about season 2. Neat.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Pixar 'n stuff
« Reply #577 on: July 14, 2012, 10:28:09 pm »

And now on another subject, another good cartoon has entered the world not too long ago; but seems largely ignored due to it's host: The Disney Channel. I know half of you are probably going to think, "A good cartoon on The Disney channel!? IMPOSSIBLE!" Well, I kid you not, there's actually a good show on Disney Channel for once.

The show: Gravity Falls

The show in a nutshell is about Dipper and Mable Pine, twins who for the summer were sent to Gravity Falls, Oregon, to get some fresh air and stay with their Grunkle (Great Uncle) Stan; who has converted his house into a tourist trap for the gullible believe-everything-they-see type of people. Everything is not as it seems, as the twins find out, as the town has many dark secrets.

Here's the intro sequence to give you all an idea of what the animation and style is like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tctX771EQeA&feature=related
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Currently only 5 episodes are out (With episodes 6 and, I think, 7 leaked.) New episodes every Friday; episodes are shown regularly on their horrific host, so if you can bear the commercials of crap you can catch up on stuff so far.
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« Reply #578 on: July 14, 2012, 10:31:50 pm »

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I know half of you are probably going to think, "A good cartoon on The Disney channel!? IMPOSSIBLE!"


Uhhh... Who ever said that? Even if you disliked their latest stuff, they are also the people who did Gargoyles and Aladin. It is their live action shows that are total garbage (Corey in the house is SOOOO terrible)

Also yeah I seen Gravity Falls, I havn't seen it a lot yet but I actually have nothing against it and find it funny. Which given that I only seen the equivilant of a single episode is saying something... I kinda want to watch more.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Pixar 'n stuff
« Reply #579 on: July 14, 2012, 11:05:45 pm »

'k so I finally finished Legend of Korra.  Here are my hopelessly late impressions.

First thoughts:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Second thoughts:
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Edit: third thoughts!
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So the schedule for Korra confused me at first, but now I get it.  The two twenty-six episode seasons ordered are actually split into two books each, meaning we'll get four half-season books instead of three full-season books.  Interesting!  I liked the pacing of the first book, hopefully the shorter story arcs will lead to less filler and more awesome.
Though I have to wonder what the remaining books will be called.  After the four elements and Spirits, what's left?  Planet, Heart, Moon, Ocean, Avatar, Energy, Ki?  Bending?  I don't know, but I have the utmost faith in the writers.   :D
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Pixar 'n stuff
« Reply #580 on: July 15, 2012, 01:40:07 am »

"A good cartoon on The Disney channel!? IMPOSSIBLE!"

...Isn't Phineas and Ferb on Disney Channel?

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« Reply #581 on: July 15, 2012, 01:42:23 am »

Episode five for Gravity Falls, I thought was actually really kind of scarry. Really good episode. The monster inside the ice machine actually made me jump.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Pixar 'n stuff
« Reply #582 on: July 15, 2012, 09:41:10 am »

Kim Possible was also on the Disney channel. So, it's not like they produce 100% crap... they seem to produce just as much crap as anyone else, really.



Anywho, due to my distaste for following things that are ongoing, I'll probably once again wait until it's finished airing its first season before checking it out. I've still got a lot of other things to catch up on in the meantime, anyway.
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« Reply #583 on: July 15, 2012, 12:08:59 pm »

What you need to do to get terrible disney shows is to get their live action shows.

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« Reply #584 on: July 15, 2012, 01:40:34 pm »

Okay, so Disney hasn't been shoveling out solid crap, but still a large amount of crap.

This series is planned for three seasons, spanning the entire summer the Pine twins are in Gravity falls; essentially a myth arc.

Also the first season is supposed to end on a cliff hanger.

And the series also has a lot of secrets hidden in it:
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There are far more secrets than those I listed in this show.

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