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[Neonivek]

I wouldn't say it was terrible, but it was different from what previews led me to believe. Take that as you will.

Oh, and I heartily recommend watching it in 3D if your theater can do that. It's not annoying 3D, just makes things look better.

NOOOOO!

I thought Brave was about a woman breaking out of her traditional roles to be the hero she is inside without it being handed to her.

Like a movie version of Jane and the Dragon (A show that I cannot explain why I love it...)

[Sirus]

I wouldn't say it was terrible, but it was different from what previews led me to believe. Take that as you will.

Oh, and I heartily recommend watching it in 3D if your theater can do that. It's not annoying 3D, just makes things look better.

NOOOOO!

I thought Brave was about a woman breaking out of her traditional roles to be the hero she is inside without it being handed to her.

Like a movie version of Jane and the Dragon (A show that I cannot explain why I love it...)

Well, there is some of that.

Spoiler: Minor spoilers, view at your own risk (click to show/hide)

You'd probably be happy to know that at the end of the movie, she is still single and hasn't been pawned off to some guy she doesn't know. And she does become a hero of sorts.

Basically, my impression was that the heroine fought in a tournament to save herself from being forced into an arranged marriage. While there are elements of that, it mostly revolves around a conflict with her mother.

[Neonivek]

Boo!

You are right the Previews really don't show that. Sad that things are still handed to her.

Ohh well I guess I could always watch reruns of Jane and the Dragon... once again I cannot really explain why I love that show so much. I wish it wasn't cancelled after one season.

[Sirus]

I wouldn't say that things are "handed to her". She has to fight hard to show her mother that the life the mother chose isn't for herself.

Also keep in mind that I'm trying to avoid spoiling anything major, so I can't describe the movie's plot as well as I could otherwise

[Neonivek]

I will say that Jane and the Dragon AND Brave are very similar in plot.

Admittingly Jane had to face a dragon to do it.

Bonus points is that they look similar and were both women in waiting.

[quinnr]

All right, fine. Moving on

So who saw Brave? I watched it in theaters last weekend and I'd like to hear what other B12'ers have to say about it.

The only real thing I have to say about it is this:

Spoiler: Possibly minor spoilers? (click to show/hide)

The movie is Mother Bear. (Brother Bear, but with a mom!)

Spoiler: Basic Plot of both movies (click to show/hide)

1.) Child is angry.
2.) Someone turns into a bear.
3.) While in bear form, people learn lessons.
4.) Bear returns human (or not. They get a choice.)

[Sergius]

The part during the credits? Hyperdrive?

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Captain standing up?

C'mon dude, just stick it in some spoiler tags.

PS: Spoilering a movie that's like two decades old? There's a statute of limitations on this stuff man

The spoiler tags were primarily for WALL-E's ending.

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No I am not refering to the captain standing up. I always chalked that up to genetic manipulation and anti-muscular entropy technology and figure his lack of ability to walk is due to him not being used to it.

No I am refering to the really easy planet transformation ability with minimal support and incredible ease. I am not suffering from a big enough head injury to swallow that.

humans without responsibilities aren't going to turn into unproductive sloths

Actually that wasn't the issue. The issue was that you couldn't be productive. The entire ship was not only automated but there were little facility to actually do anything productive. Want to study new fields of technology? No facilities on the ship. Want to grow something? No facilities on the ship. Buisness? Automated. Essentially people COULDN'T be productive even if they wanted to.

Mind you... Even I have known people who genuinly enjoy exercise... but I allow suspension of disbelief for thematic reasons as well sometimes.

The official explanation was atrophy in space because the lack of gravity, which makes some sense. Except the part where they had gravity.

There are many problems with WALL-E, a lot of them in the plot. I read an article once and it destroyed it for me. The only way I can enjoy WALL-E is to shut down my brain entirely... it's still a cute film with nice effects and CGI, I suppose.

[RedKing]

I rather enjoyed Brave. Plot wasn't anything spectacular, but it was visually lush and I enjoyed the voice acting.

I'm *really* intrigued by the trailer I saw for Wreck-It Ralph. The "video game bad guy support group" bit was outstanding.

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Good cast, tons of shout-outs to gaming history, and perhaps a bit of a social commentary on how grimdark modern gaming is compared to its 8-bit days.

[Sirus]

Yeah, I kinda wanna see Wreck-It Ralph. Sadly, no one else I know does.

I don't have the slightest idea how they managed to get so many licensed characters in the same room, but it's damned impressive.

[Pnx]

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Good cast, tons of shout-outs to gaming history, and perhaps a bit of a social commentary on how grimdark modern gaming is compared to its 8-bit days.

Let's see, I can recognise most of the guys on the right half, except the demon dude, but the left half is a mystery, with the exception of the house of the dead zombie.

[Neonivek]

The Demon Dude is probably meant to be Horny. I vaguely recognise the guys to the left and know I've seen many of them before (the Rhino and Robot) and some seem to be generic.

Though WHY the heck is Human Smoke and Zangief here? Neither of them are evil.

[Sirus]

I actually think I recognize the blue-haired woman (?) on the left next to the rhino; I was replaying Dragon Quest IX the other day and fought a boss named Morag, who looks a lot like that.

The Demon Dude is probably meant to be Horny. I vaguely recognise the guys to the left and know I've seen many of them before (the Rhino and Robot) and some seem to be generic.

Though WHY the heck is Human Smoke and Zangief here? Neither of them are evil.

Reformed/recovering villains? Bowser isn't exactly evil either.

[kaijyuu]

Haha, now that I think about it, Zangief being a "bad guy" has some unfortunate implications. Just because he's Russian he's evil?

[Sirus]

Of course! Russians in video games are always evil

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Except for all the times they're not.

[Neonivek]

Reformed/recovering villains? Bowser isn't exactly evil either.

Which I'd give if it wasn't for the fact that Zangief was never a villain... and Smoke was only a secret villain as a robot but never as a human.

They probably picked Smoke because he was a Ninja and Zangief because he "sort of looks like a villain".

Mind you I am half convinced it isn't Zangief but a more obscure character...