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[Neonivek]

Neither has the voice acting

Having never heard the voice acting you heard of I am guessing it is the same voice acting as in macross... I actually consider a different style of voice acting altogether which has certain advantages.

It actually is somewhat missed given that it is serious.

[Sergius]

How about Wing Commander Academy? I had never actually watched it until a couple years ago. Funny thing, any character that isn't a named character in the games has a 99% likelihood of dying in the first episode he/she shows up.

It's not THAT good, but feels strangely retro.

[kaijyuu]

Continuing on with Gargoyles~

At the start I didn't really like Demona. None of her actions really made sense to me; yeah she's in denial and all that, but her actions didn't always seem to line up with her stated goals.

Then came the City of Stone 4 parter. Okay, it makes sense now. I already knew she was blaming all her faults on other people, but now she's so far past the moral event horizon that if she stopped denying everything she's probably curl up into a ball of self loathing for a few centuries. Damn.

[Remalle]

FINALLY watching Korra episode 2.  HOLY CRAP PRO BENDING.  BEST EVER.  How have I missed out on this?

[Hawkfrost]

Alright to heck with it, I am going to watch Korra.
All this talking about it from everyone is making my curiosity burn.

[Neonivek]

I've watched Chaotic and Battleforce 5 and both of them at one time presented us with a invading force.

However in both cases the invaders in question were pathetic and I do not believe for a second that they would have taken the earth down.

In Chaotic there is the entire world of Chaotic and in Battleforce 5 there is the Vandals and the Robots (forgot their name).

Except there is a difference

In Chaotic they outright admitted that our technology and simple size, Chaotic is a much smaller and less populated world then ours, would have won out. In Battleforce 5 they still treat the Vandals as if they were in anyway a threat (with exception to ONE time stop device that I am sure would have ran out of energy).

What are the Vandals? Well they are Animalmen who drive open cockpit roadsters without any projectile weaponry. They lack super strength or speed. I wonder how our TANKS would deal with them. The Sarks are quite a bit more threatening but they are just cannon fodder robots. (There is a later enemy who is legitimately threatening however)

So here is the game!

Present the most pathetic invading force that a series actually expects you to take seriously inspite of the fact that we easily would have won.

[IronyOwl]

So here is the game!

Present the most pathetic invading force that a series actually expects you to take seriously inspite of the fact that we easily would have won.

Is there a point to your obsession with overanalyzing bad things? Sometimes it seems like you're more interested in talking about how terrible things are than anything else.

Plus, bizarrely overspecific. How many terrible series featuring alien invasion do you think we've watched?

[Neonivek]

I spoke of things I liked much earlier, this time I spoke of something that came to mind.

Heck sometimes it just spins out of something I say I DO like (For example when I complimented the Season 1 finale fight in the new He-Man... which is still amazing by the way)

Though mostly it is because if I like something there is no point in saying I like it because you only care if you seen it too (as well my tastes tend to be so odd that only I share my likes). If it is something I dislike the common elements are shared with everyone around me.

If my last post was "I saw the second season of Avengers and I have to say they really deal with every single complaint I've had about the first season, they actually put the character back into the show and it is just grand. It just makes every episode a blast to see" NO ONE WOULD CARE!

If I spoke about how the weak characterisation of the show in the first season detracted from the overall experience and that it didn't understand that action doesn't replace character. Everyone would have their own example of a show that really should have at one point dialed back the action and put a bit more human effort into it.

How many terrible series featuring alien invasion do you think we've watched?

Well not all great series do no mistakes. As well let me see... How many terrible series featuring alien invasion do I think someone who seen 80s shows and seen 90s shows? A lot actually.

I mean... Lets just get into shows with alien invasion
-Lilo and Stitch (ignoring that I liked it)
-Biker Mice from Mars (both of them)
-The Mighty Ducks
-Darkwing Duck
-Aladin
-Timon and Pumba
-Space Chimp
-Super Monkey Force Five
-Battle Force five
-Chaotic
-Winx Club
-Futurama
-The Simpsons
-Family Guy
-Rugrats
-He-man (One version)
-Ben-Ten (Old and New)
-Fineas and Ferb (Yes I cannot spell one of the names)
-Justice League
-The New Adventures of Superman
-Spiderman (two of them)
-Teen Titans

Though it depends if we have to stay in animation. Afterall "Are you afraid of the dark" and "Goosebumps" both featured aliens. I could probably turn to my cartoon station and add to this out of the really bad show pile.

[Frumple]

Nah, that's actually kind of an interesting question. I just... I can't remember the specifics of many alien invasions in media (currently, the only one I can dredge up the memory for is EarthScorpion's Eva/Cthulhutech crossovers... which is sorta' western media via the lovecraft influence, but not animated. Also not a terrible invasion, heh.), much less any animated ones.

In a more general sense, most alien invasions are handled pretty shittily... X-Com (and some fiction for it... offhand, I'd cite Chryssalid's Road to Cydonia.) is one of the better ones. Mostly what I'm vaguely meandering toward is that a full out invasion is almost always basically the worst and most moronic choice a species could decide to enact (Sun Tzu laughs 'is bloody arse off at a lot of writers ). Infiltration, long-term social engineering, stuff like that... all much more effective with less effort. Even with emergency colonization scenarios, it'd be a lot better to bribe us with some shitty knockoff tech for rights to the poles or something, and then work from there. I can't really respect/fear a spacefaring race who's first major action is to show up over the white house or whatever and say surrender earthlings.

More or less, most alien species seem to be ridiculously inept. It's like... you put a human in command and next Tuesday these chuckleheads would have control of all seven continents, but these xeno idiots do stupid stupid things and end up taking two whole seasons or whatever just to get kicked off the planet. I mean... damn. Some day, someone's going to start a show in which the aliens are smart, and just kinetic kill vehicle everything worth mentioning. The show will last one or two episodes 

E:Woah, buggery. List thing. What blazes, I've seen most of those and don't really recall the invasions as being particularly notable... maybe something that happened during them (Mighty Ducks, ferex), but the invasion itself was almost a... set piece, I guess? Weird.

E2: There's also pretty different sorts of invasions going on in that list... a lot you might not even be fair in calling an invasion at all. Interaction, definitely, but no conquer world/large chunk of geography going on, which is what I think when I think alien invasion. Damn, I wish I remembered that stuff well enough to comment more meaningfully on this subject.

[Neonivek]

Invasions tend never to be a constant thing they are usually a "Once" sorta deal.

For example in Aladin their alien invasion by the Etherials was a one episode thing about teaching you that it is the "People" that makes a civilisation great, not its accomplishments.

In some of the other shows it was just played for fun and the aliens didn't really do much.

a lot you might not even be fair in calling an invasion at all

Not even going to pretend that I didn't stretched the definition to its dishonest most accurate form for some of these (uhhh... some... looking at my list there were some you may not remember)

Interaction, definitely, but no conquer world/large chunk of geography going on, which is what I think when I think alien invasion

Ohh that is what you meant. Ehhh I'd think if aliens came down, demolished a city, and then left it would be a alien "Invasion" as in they "Invade".

[RedWarrior0]

So, Korra. Anybody think any original series characters other than Katara and (sort of) Aang are going to show up in the present? After all, it's 70 years. Bumi was 110+ in TLA, the guru was apparently 150, and Kyoshi supposedly lived well past that. And yet everyone is gone already.

One thing I dislike is how un-special stuff like bloodbending and metalbending became. Oh, and the whole pure platinum can't be metalbent thing is just going to escalate when we get 'platinum benders' who can bend platinum and then 'uberplatinum' that can't be bent by them, and so on.

[Neonivek]

Well you do technically have all the spirits being alive still. Maybe the face stealer will make an appearance again.

Though I doubt spirits, even though they could EASILY present themselves as villains, will even be seen in this show anymore.

[kaijyuu]

Random epiphany concerning Korra (or more specifically, Mako):


Mako is your typical Chick Action Girl. Only he's a guy. Reasons:

1) Largely irrelevant except as a love interest.
2) Token action scenes here and there to try to prove him as physically capable, but doesn't really accomplish anything.
3) Flat, one note characterization.
4) Serves as the main character's reward at the end of the series.


His main sin is he's never really developed much as a character. His backstory is just offhandedly mentioned (his parents are deeeead!), violating "show, don't tell." From the beginning to the end, he never changes at all. All his big badass moments don't actually accomplish anything. He's just there. And that's it.




Re: Next season of Korra.

I'm hoping for more insight into the spirits. The steampunk setting doesn't really do it for me, so some added mysticism would be cool. Plus it's never really been expanded upon much.

[penguinofhonor]

Random epiphany concerning Korra (or more specifically, Mako):


Mako is your typical Chick Action Girl. Only he's a guy. Reasons:

1) Largely irrelevant except as a love interest.
2) Token action scenes here and there to try to prove him as physically capable, but doesn't really accomplish anything.
3) Flat, one note characterization.
4) Serves as the main character's reward at the end of the series.


His main sin is he's never really developed much as a character. His backstory is just offhandedly mentioned (his parents are deeeead!), violating "show, don't tell." From the beginning to the end, he never changes at all. All his big badass moments don't actually accomplish anything. He's just there. And that's it.

This makes too much sense. And it's more entertaining at how really angry people are over Mako being like this. "Yeah, of course you realize how bad it is once it happens to you!"

[kaijyuu]

Ah man I hit a really bad string of Gargoyles episodes. I won't go into it much but due to some rather contrived story reasons 2 of the main cast are traveling around the world and having Wacky Adventures. Boring wacky adventures. This leaves many of my favorite characters (Hudson, Xanatos) out of the picture. Also there's a newly introduced and really dull tag-a-long gargoyle that's getting dull character development along the way. Also also I liked Goliath and Elise's relationship better when they were just friends instead of all this romantic subtext.


Some fun fridge logic: They did find some more female gargoyles, so the species isn't going to be extinct... but well, they'd be inbreeding. Bow chicka wow wow