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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- By your powers combined...
« Reply #180 on: June 17, 2012, 01:28:08 pm »

Oh, I did find a Batman: The Dark Knight Returns collection recently and thumbed through it. The art was nice but the whole thing reeked of cheese; The batmobile is a goddamn tank, Batman hops out of it to fight a mutant dude mano-mano in the mud... This is a highly respected series? Maybe it's just weird and silly when taken out of context; I didn't read it properly, after all.
Frank Miller right?
His stuff tends to be fairly uh... let's go with questionable. He seems to alternate whether his stuff is taken seriously or as a parody.
But that was one of his better ones, so yeah, it makes a bit more sense in context not too much more though.
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« Reply #181 on: June 17, 2012, 11:54:27 pm »

Yeppers, Frank Miller. When I'm feeling open minded I might give it a real go through.
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« Reply #182 on: June 18, 2012, 12:01:04 am »

Earthworm Jim. I know it's old and not on the air anymore and most people probably don't remember but yeah... It was my favourite.

Absolutely hilarious even as an adult, at least in my opinion, and if you've got kids they'll laugh at it too without necessarily knowing why YOU are laughing at it.

Gotta love that aspect of cartoons. The really good ones sneak in humour only the adults are gonna get so they'll bother watching cartoons with their kids.
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« Reply #183 on: June 18, 2012, 12:48:56 am »

Earthworm Jim. I know it's old and not on the air anymore and most people probably don't remember but yeah... It was my favourite.

Absolutely hilarious even as an adult, at least in my opinion, and if you've got kids they'll laugh at it too without necessarily knowing why YOU are laughing at it.

Gotta love that aspect of cartoons. The really good ones sneak in humour only the adults are gonna get so they'll bother watching cartoons with their kids.

Earthworm Jim was quite good, especially for a toon based on a video game.
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« Reply #184 on: June 18, 2012, 12:58:59 am »

Western animation has a weird relationship with licensing. It seems things you'd never expect to make good cartoons (things based on toys, greeting cards, video games, newspaper comics, etc) turn out good at a surprising rate.

Maybe it's because people don't really care about what happens in the cartoon based on their product so long as it exists in the first place, and as such producers are pretty much given permission to go wild.
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For, in order that men should resist injustice, something more is necessary than that they should think injustice unpleasant. They must think injustice absurd; above all, they must think it startling. They must retain the violence of a virgin astonishment. When the pessimist looks at any infamy, it is to him, after all, only a repetition of the infamy of existence. But the optimist sees injustice as something discordant and unexpected, and it stings him into action.

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« Reply #185 on: June 18, 2012, 01:09:36 am »

Western animation has a weird relationship with licensing. It seems things you'd never expect to make good cartoons (things based on toys, greeting cards, video games, newspaper comics, etc) turn out good at a surprising rate.

Maybe it's because people don't really care about what happens in the cartoon based on their product so long as it exists in the first place, and as such producers are pretty much given permission to go wild.

That's how it was with me and the Mario Bros cartoon. I was just so thrilled to watch a show about my videogame. I used to get up reflexively at something like 4am to watch that show in the morning as a kid.
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« Reply #186 on: June 18, 2012, 02:15:51 am »

For a number of IP's, cartoons are really only created to tie into toy lines. It's nice when you get skilled producers who can create a much better cartoon then was originally anticipated.

Like with the Mario Bros cartoon. Accurate in character designs it wasn't really, but I do remember it being entertaining to watch. Other shows like "Captain N: The Game Master"... well...

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« Reply #187 on: June 18, 2012, 02:21:59 am »

I'd totally watch Thy Dungeonman.
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For, in order that men should resist injustice, something more is necessary than that they should think injustice unpleasant. They must think injustice absurd; above all, they must think it startling. They must retain the violence of a virgin astonishment. When the pessimist looks at any infamy, it is to him, after all, only a repetition of the infamy of existence. But the optimist sees injustice as something discordant and unexpected, and it stings him into action.

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« Reply #188 on: June 18, 2012, 02:44:56 am »

If there were a dwarf fortress cartoon...
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« Reply #189 on: June 19, 2012, 12:21:10 am »

Okay, just finished episode 4 of Avatar. This stuff is pretty good. Just, what, 56 episodes to go?

edit: Oh, 52. The next two seasons aren't as long as the first one.
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« Reply #190 on: June 19, 2012, 12:38:05 am »

First half of the first season is the low point of the series, imo. So yeah, if you think it good now :)
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For, in order that men should resist injustice, something more is necessary than that they should think injustice unpleasant. They must think injustice absurd; above all, they must think it startling. They must retain the violence of a virgin astonishment. When the pessimist looks at any infamy, it is to him, after all, only a repetition of the infamy of existence. But the optimist sees injustice as something discordant and unexpected, and it stings him into action.

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« Reply #191 on: June 19, 2012, 12:51:39 am »

It feels really fillery to me and kind of immature, but I kind of expect it to mature a bit as it goes on so I don't really care about that for now.
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« Reply #192 on: June 19, 2012, 12:57:16 am »

I think "The Storm" and "The Blue Spirit" are where the series really picks up, and doesn't let go until the end of Book Two.  The rest of the series is awesome... but that season-and-a-half span is probably the best.
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« Reply #193 on: June 19, 2012, 01:12:29 am »

This is a highly respected series? Maybe it's just weird and silly when taken out of context; I didn't read it properly, after all.

Along with Watchmen, TDKR is considered one of the seminal works of comic books and (along with Watchmen) considered responsible for starting the Dark Age.

You know, the age of comics starring dudes like this:

Spoiler: WARCHILD HOO-AH (click to show/hide)

Although considering Frank Miller's track record, I sometimes wonder if TDKR is respected mostly because it was the work that finished Batman's Bronze age transition from campy to dark.
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« Reply #194 on: June 19, 2012, 02:01:40 am »

Oh, I know of the Dark Age. Mere mention of it requires me to link this: Rob Liefeld's 40 worst drawings.

Even people who don't care in the slightest about comic books should follow that link and be amazed.
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For, in order that men should resist injustice, something more is necessary than that they should think injustice unpleasant. They must think injustice absurd; above all, they must think it startling. They must retain the violence of a virgin astonishment. When the pessimist looks at any infamy, it is to him, after all, only a repetition of the infamy of existence. But the optimist sees injustice as something discordant and unexpected, and it stings him into action.
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