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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. Batman > You
« Reply #90 on: June 05, 2012, 10:04:13 am »

I can't say that animated series of western progeniture are my slice of bread, although I do watch animated feature films from time to time. Here's a few interesting ones I know:
(links to trailers on youtube)

The Secret of Kells - myths and history of the British isles are blended to tell a coming of age tale, with visual and aural grandeur. The unique animation style mimics the simple, yet intricate illuminations of the titular artifact. It's one of my favourite films, animated or not.

The Triplets of Belleville - a really trippy and technically impressive film, with the big drawback of being rather boring. Some really memorable scenes are worth sitting through its overly long run.

Metropia - An Orwellian world and story, reminescent of Terry Gilliam's Brazil. The visual style is very unsettling, with actors' faces kind of "grafted" onto CGI animated puppets. The story doesn't have much of an impact, though. Or maybe it's just me being too jaded.

Persepolis - Another coming of age story, this time with an Iranian girl at its centre. Mostly kept in black and white, this comic book adaptation is at times observant, darkly humorous and poignant.

Immortal: Ad vitam - (note: the trailer doesn't do it justice) An adaptation of one of Enki Bilal's comic books (which you should check by the way) merging live-acting with CGI animation. Looks jarringly odd at times, but if you can get over this, the film gets quite interesting.
The story concerns... nah, it's too weird and complicated to describe.

Waltz with Bashir - A sort of documentary, concerning the Lebanon War of 1982. It's got a dreamy feel to it, almost nightmarish but not quite, despite being a very realistic depiction of war. Worth seeing.

I've seen the first two, and enjoyed both. Even got my daughter to sit through Secret of Kells...thought she might take off when the Vikings or Crom Cruach showed up, but she stuck it out. It's a gorgeous film.


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Iknorite? Not only that, but the animation/artwork quality was just that...quality. For all their other failings when it comes to storytelling sometimes, one thing you cannot accuse Disney of is having poorly-trained artists and animators. Compared to the 6- and 8-frame a second crap that a lot of companies were pumping out on Saturday mornings, Gummi Bears was done in much higher caliber animation (I can't find the exact specs, but I'm guessing at least 16 frames per second, possibly 24).
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #91 on: June 05, 2012, 10:41:02 am »

So there are rumors floating around the Internets that Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated started airing its second season in the UK. Supposedly the first episode aired last saturday, and a new one will be airing this saturday. Won't know for certain unless someone records it, since all the tv listings I can find don't list which episode is actually airing.

I certainly hope it's true! This poor show has a terrible track record of actually airing new episodes; 7 month wait between the first and second halves of season 1, and season 2 got delayed. I wonder if they're having production problems or if Cartoon Network just sucks. Maybe both.


The first episode of season 2 was leaked a while back, and you can find it on youtube if you're not yet up to date. (Don't watch that unless you've seen the entire first season, else you'll get spoiled on some good plot twists (yes scooby doo has plot twists beyond the unmaskings))


EDIT: The more I look into it, the more likely it seems! Guess I'll be trying to find a good youtube upload this saturday.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #92 on: June 05, 2012, 01:22:38 pm »

Wait, huh?  Isn't it produced by an American company for an American network?  Why would it be out here first?
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #93 on: June 05, 2012, 01:42:14 pm »

Old Scooby Doo makes my brain bleed, its so stupid to me, very repetive, predictable, animations like they were made for 5 bucks (i know there were other standards long ago, but seriously, why the fuck do they air 80's(or something) show on Cartoon Network?), plus name Scooby Doo makes my eyes bleed, the dog is plain idiot, so is Shaggy, and that isnt totally funny for me because i deal with such retards daily in REAL LIFE. The main heroes come to fascinating conclusions at end of every episode, that ghosts actually DONT exist, yet still shit pants when see one even after dealing with such cases daily, do they have amnesia or what?  Some times when scooby or shaggy is accidentaly dressed as ghost, they decide to beat him up, why dont they do it when its ACTUALLY the guy who they are looking for? Seriously, Scooby Doo gives me heavy cerebral hemorrhage and when i see it i head to nearest toilet. The only worse thing than it is Metallica album "Lulu". And this is end of my rant.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #94 on: June 05, 2012, 01:50:46 pm »

It is a light-hearted children's cartoon for children!  It is not meant to be taken seriously and critically analysed by an adult!
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #95 on: June 05, 2012, 01:51:40 pm »

Im not adult either.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #96 on: June 05, 2012, 01:58:39 pm »

Somebody needs a couple of Scooby Snacks.

The first trick to enjoying Scooby Doo is to realize that Scooby and Shaggy are almost perpetually baked. Hence the paranoia, the constant obsession with finding some food, the giggling, the gullability of thinking they a g-g-g-g-GHOST, and so forth.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #97 on: June 05, 2012, 02:11:33 pm »

Somebody needs a couple of Scooby Snacks.

The first trick to enjoying Scooby Doo is to realize that Scooby and Shaggy are almost perpetually baked. Hence the paranoia, the constant obsession with finding some food, the giggling, the gullability of thinking they a g-g-g-g-GHOST, and so forth.
I always assumed the snacks were like "special" brownies of some form or another. Also, I don't think that originally anyone but Shaggy could understand Scooby when he spoke.

The Venture Brothers did a great parody of Scooby Doo.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #98 on: June 05, 2012, 02:44:31 pm »

Old Scooby Doo makes my brain bleed, its so stupid to me, very repetive, predictable, animations like they were made for 5 bucks (i know there were other standards long ago, but seriously, why the fuck do they air 80's(or something) show on Cartoon Network?), plus name Scooby Doo makes my eyes bleed, the dog is plain idiot, so is Shaggy, and that isnt totally funny for me because i deal with such retards daily in REAL LIFE. The main heroes come to fascinating conclusions at end of every episode, that ghosts actually DONT exist, yet still shit pants when see one even after dealing with such cases daily, do they have amnesia or what?  Some times when scooby or shaggy is accidentaly dressed as ghost, they decide to beat him up, why dont they do it when its ACTUALLY the guy who they are looking for? Seriously, Scooby Doo gives me heavy cerebral hemorrhage and when i see it i head to nearest toilet. The only worse thing than it is Metallica album "Lulu". And this is end of my rant.

Old Scooby is fantastic, and superior to the current one. The old Scob show was about critical thinking, investigation and using evidence to come to a conclusion. It was never a supernatural bullshit thing, there was always human agency.
Just like in real life.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #99 on: June 05, 2012, 02:54:53 pm »

Somebody needs a couple of Scooby Snacks.

The first trick to enjoying Scooby Doo is to realize that Scooby and Shaggy are almost perpetually baked. Hence the paranoia, the constant obsession with finding some food, the giggling, the gullability of thinking they a g-g-g-g-GHOST, and so forth.
I always assumed the snacks were like "special" brownies of some form or another. Also, I don't think that originally anyone but Shaggy could understand Scooby when he spoke.

The Venture Brothers did a great parody of Scooby Doo.
One of the first episodes of Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law I ever saw involved him defending Shaggy and Scooby on possession charges:P
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #100 on: June 05, 2012, 03:05:00 pm »

Wait, huh?  Isn't it produced by an American company for an American network?  Why would it be out here first?
Beats me! Digging further I am starting to come across inconsistent information; everywhere except the dedicated scooby doo wiki claims episode 27 aired june 2nd. The scooby doo wiki claims 4 episodes have aired. However, I can't find any videos of them.

Episode 28 info



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1) The old cartoon has its merits, but yeah it's extremely campy. I liked it as a kid since it hit the threshold of "scariness" that I could handle (I was very, very easily scared by movies and TV as a kid. X-Files was too much for me). It's still pretty entertaining if you imagine Shaggy to be constantly baked. IMO its strength is turning "horror" tropes into comedic ones and simplifying it for kids, though of course it was made in a time where adding stuff older people might like wasn't common.
2) Mystery Incorporated has 0 supernatural elements except talking animals. Oh, and the costumes give acrobatic and super strength through the power of plot. It's more "realistic" than say, Batman, and doesn't have any of the silliness from the movies (so no real monsters, unless you count the monstrous human beings).
3) I liked Robot Chicken's parody :P "Man, I am one messed up dog food eating hippie."
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #101 on: June 05, 2012, 03:11:55 pm »

Old Scooby Doo makes my brain bleed, its so stupid to me, very repetive, predictable, animations like they were made for 5 bucks (i know there were other standards long ago, but seriously, why the fuck do they air 80's(or something) show on Cartoon Network?), plus name Scooby Doo makes my eyes bleed, the dog is plain idiot, so is Shaggy, and that isnt totally funny for me because i deal with such retards daily in REAL LIFE. The main heroes come to fascinating conclusions at end of every episode, that ghosts actually DONT exist, yet still shit pants when see one even after dealing with such cases daily, do they have amnesia or what?  Some times when scooby or shaggy is accidentaly dressed as ghost, they decide to beat him up, why dont they do it when its ACTUALLY the guy who they are looking for? Seriously, Scooby Doo gives me heavy cerebral hemorrhage and when i see it i head to nearest toilet. The only worse thing than it is Metallica album "Lulu". And this is end of my rant.
Old Scooby is fantastic, and superior to the current one. The old Scob show was about critical thinking, investigation and using evidence to come to a conclusion. It was never a supernatural bullshit thing, there was always human agency.
Just like in real life.
Bullshit!  Mystery Incorporated has better writing than the older series and I have seen almost all the older stuff which I own on VHS.

And if I remember the first movie (does that count as old enough?) there were REAL ZOMBIES.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #102 on: June 05, 2012, 03:15:11 pm »

I remember how people would complain that Mystery INC would run away from ghosts instead of confronting them and I sort of agreed until exactly one episode.

The Ghost was a really buff man with a white sheet over his head... the worst ghost in the entire run of the show... but at the same time I would NEVER EVER not run away from him if he was chasing me.

It sort of made me realise that one of the reasons they run anyway is because... lets face it... they could kill you.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #103 on: June 05, 2012, 03:20:07 pm »

They do fight back in the new series, just not hand-to-hand. Ex: Same video I linked in the OP.

Also the villains do try to kill them now. Earnestly. With knives and stuff.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #104 on: June 05, 2012, 03:22:17 pm »

Old Scooby Doo makes my brain bleed, its so stupid to me, very repetive, predictable, animations like they were made for 5 bucks (i know there were other standards long ago, but seriously, why the fuck do they air 80's(or something) show on Cartoon Network?), plus name Scooby Doo makes my eyes bleed, the dog is plain idiot, so is Shaggy, and that isnt totally funny for me because i deal with such retards daily in REAL LIFE. The main heroes come to fascinating conclusions at end of every episode, that ghosts actually DONT exist, yet still shit pants when see one even after dealing with such cases daily, do they have amnesia or what?  Some times when scooby or shaggy is accidentaly dressed as ghost, they decide to beat him up, why dont they do it when its ACTUALLY the guy who they are looking for? Seriously, Scooby Doo gives me heavy cerebral hemorrhage and when i see it i head to nearest toilet. The only worse thing than it is Metallica album "Lulu". And this is end of my rant.
Old Scooby is fantastic, and superior to the current one. The old Scob show was about critical thinking, investigation and using evidence to come to a conclusion. It was never a supernatural bullshit thing, there was always human agency.
Just like in real life.
Bullshit!  Mystery Incorporated has better writing than the older series and I have seen almost all the older stuff which I own on VHS.

And if I remember the first movie (does that count as old enough?) there were REAL ZOMBIES.
Old Scooby never had any movies, to my knowledge. Whats the release date for the movie?
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