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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- The De-pants-imation Proclamation
« Reply #795 on: August 15, 2012, 07:05:46 am »

And yeah, everything with a bit of popularity spawns its own memes. I got no problem with those at all, unless it's specifically intended to take something novel and unique and make it commonplace.
Surely every meme matches that description, unless it was already a cliché in the first place.  I don't think that would be an improvement.
Well, take "gotta catch 'em all" from Pokemon. Not really novel or unique, but still memetic. It captured an idea (the point of the show/game) in a concise phrase, and people merely started applying it to other things (or spouting it as a catch phrase).

You'd have a solid case for most internet memes being novel things repeated ad nauseam, though. Anything amusing ceases to be so when it becomes commonplace, but not every meme is intended to be amusing.

Kinda splitting hairs here, though. It's altogether Not A Big Deal. Fandoms have memes, there's pretty much no avoiding that, and it's not inherently bad.



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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- The De-pants-imation Proclamation
« Reply #796 on: August 15, 2012, 07:13:16 am »

I guess that is one of the things that the internet has managed to do, take catch phrases out of our vocabulary (though it has made watching all of my cartoons easier). :P By allowing something that used to be part of a small group of people become immensely popular in a short amount of time it lets catch phrases jump right up the scale from phrase to meme to common vocabulary to annoying in the matter of days where it used to take months or even years, thus no longer allowing people to use it as a catch phrase because it has already moved to the "annoying" stage.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- The De-pants-imation Proclamation
« Reply #797 on: August 15, 2012, 07:22:45 am »

"Gotta catch 'em all" surely isn't annoying because it hasn't really got much saturation.  I've heard it only a few times in my entire life and those times tended to be timed as jokes rather than catchphrases.  If it took on meme level of exposure it would get old very fast.

Although I refuse to believe horse puns had anything other than an "annoying" stage :P.
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« Reply #798 on: August 15, 2012, 08:01:18 am »



Does anyone here watch or enjoy this series? Certainly can't claim it's targeted at the kids here, but frankly what little I've watched I've found too low brow and offensive to really enjoy. On the other hand I have friends who own the full series on box set and love it.
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« Reply #799 on: August 15, 2012, 08:09:25 am »

Although I refuse to believe horse puns had anything other than an "annoying" stage :P.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- The De-pants-imation Proclamation
« Reply #800 on: August 15, 2012, 08:10:05 am »

Family Guy is quite okay, but it's incredibly annoying because half the humour is references or mentions of American pop culture, so you rarely laugh if you aren't from the US or aren't knee-deep in what happens and what was happening there. Too much homework for jokes that aren't that good.
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« Reply #801 on: August 15, 2012, 10:14:36 am »

Most of the humour in Family Guy can be summed as this:

"Oh, that reminds me the time that <celebrity name> did <action> in <event the character attended> (flashback to said scene)".

Example:

"Oh, that reminds me the time Paula Abdul crashed her car into our house during Meg's birthday." (flashback to Meg's birthday).

The rest of the humour that isn't in that format is ok, tho. It wasn't like that in the first season or so, but it became pretty much the show signature.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- The De-pants-imation Proclamation
« Reply #802 on: August 15, 2012, 01:27:18 pm »

Early Family Guy is a fair bit better then, say, recent The Simpsons, I think.  It's gone downhill rapidly since being uncancelled, though.  And the other two shows by what's-his-name are just carbon copies that were never any good in the first place.
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« Reply #803 on: August 15, 2012, 01:34:41 pm »

Family guy is good, though I suppose if I weren't an American I would have no idea what the hell this show is on about. But I guess it fits its own role pretty well.

My personal favorite is American Dad though.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- The De-pants-imation Proclamation
« Reply #804 on: August 15, 2012, 01:40:11 pm »

First couple of seasons of Family Guy were great. But yeah, the formulaic non-sequitur humor got to be so constant that South Park worked it into a fantastic spoof/anti-censorship episode.


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« Reply #805 on: August 15, 2012, 02:01:07 pm »

In the case of family guy I find that it walks the line a little too close to the stupid humor for my tastes. I mean it has it's good moments with the random humor where they do something that actually takes knowledge to get, and I find that funny, but 5 minute long random punching matches with a chicken isn't something that I find that entertaining.

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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- The De-pants-imation Proclamation
« Reply #806 on: August 16, 2012, 01:25:50 pm »

Just watched Mystery Incorporated season 2, episode 7. Probably the most ridiculous one yet.

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7 more episodes to go. This is a lot harder to find than MLP or Gravity Falls. Guess there's not a fandom spreading around free illegal episodes for this one, so I have to dig into the deeper recesses of the internets. Alas.
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« Reply #807 on: August 18, 2012, 12:07:41 pm »

Where do you get your stuff guys?

I'm usually using 'that site which is not to be named' because I don't really know any reliable sites that have a bunch of this stuff and that are updated regularly (like say Animetake is when it comes to anime).

(Because I REALLY want to see that damned episode 8 but can't really find it there :C )
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« Reply #808 on: August 18, 2012, 12:09:40 pm »

Google will usually lead me to some shady looking video streaming site.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- The De-pants-imation Proclamation
« Reply #809 on: August 18, 2012, 12:15:22 pm »

Yup! Gotta love those shady video streaming sites.
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