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[Neonivek]

Okay, having seen the Simpsons, that would strike me as quite odd. Thanks for explaining

I seen an old episode of the Simpsons lately.

It really feels odd watching the new simpsons with the old stuff... Given that the Old episodes actually had heart and often didn't back out of tough troubling issues or even back out of handling it earnestly and not in a comical fashion (Mind you they did do jokes along the way).

It is kind of the thing with me and comedy. I think the best comedy is a show where if you took out every single joke... it would still be good.

[kaijyuu]

]It is kind of the thing with me and comedy. I think the best comedy is a show where if you took out every single joke... it would still be good.

Someone who agrees with me on this!

To me, comedy is like icing. Icing needs to be put on a cake to work best. Sure you can snack on it straight out of the can too, but it's not very satisfying alone. And on the flip side, if you have too much cake, it gets bland. Such is the same with comedy; it needs a base to stand on, be it drama, or slice of life, or whatever, and the stronger the base the better. The base is not something unimportant that can be tossed aside.



And yeah, simpsons started really sucking when they embraced the "stop taking it so seriously, it's just a comedy" philosophy. It doesn't have a definitive shark jumping moment since its downfall was very slow and gradual, but I can point out where the mindset on the part of the producers came to light: Comic Book Guy's "worst episode ever" line. Mocking the fans that were taking the show "too seriously" and would dare criticize one of their newer episodes (it was directly pulled from a usenet user during the third or fourth season, iirc). Made for a pretty funny and memetic joke, but yeah. That's where I think they went wrong.

[kaijyuu]

Gravity Falls episode 7 aired. 8 got leaked I think, but I haven't watched it myself yet.

Spoiler:  episode 7 (click to show/hide)

Not bad, not bad. Still feeling that the supernatural stuff is being discovered a bit too easily and is becoming a bit too common. Not much mystery if it's all over the place. Wonder what exactly Stan did to make the copier act like that, though...

Also it was a nice twist on the "clone betrayal" thing, in the end.


Mild disappointment with the asian girl, though. Stereotypically messed up grammar is stupid and always has been.


Conspiracy theorizing time: Think Dipper's cutie mark birth mark will have any significance, or just an excuse for his name and/or a joke?

[Karlito]

Episode 7 thoughts:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

It was a bit hamfisted with the moral there at the end too, but I guess you can expect that from a children's show. I did like that his copies weren't necessarily evil, and worked well together for most of the episode. I think that I could get along pretty well with a carbon copy of myself, though the protocol I've set up says I should immediately kill any I encounter, just in case.

The birthmark seemed like more of a gag to me than anything else, but it does explain the hat. Do we know what his real name is?

Credits Cipher:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

KZKVI QZN WRKKVI HZBH: "ZFFTSDCJSTZWHZWFS!"
is an Atbash cipher for

PAPER JAM DIPPER SAYS: "AUUGHWXQHGADSADUH!"

I feel that there's probably a second message encoded in that scream, but I haven't been able to get it. If it exists, it's more complicated than the simple shifts they've been using so far.

Oh, and now I guess I have to watch the whole thing over again to look for that guy in the background.

[Pnx]

Spoiler: On episode 7 (click to show/hide)

I was so expecting the birthmark to come up as a part of a "How do I know which one to shoot?" thing.

[MrWiggles]

Piratebay doesnt have it yet. Grrrr...

[kaijyuu]

Gravity Falls' 8th episode got leaked. Watched it, mucho impressed! Probably my favorite, after episode 1.

Spoiler: Irrational Treasure (click to show/hide)

Mabel and Pinkie Pie would be like, BFFs. Holy crap.

Also THIS is the tone I like. Secret mystery stuff is covered in secrety mystery-y stuff, rather than found at the start of the episode to move the plot.


I don't comment much on comedy for western animation since the vast majority of it doesn't appeal to me, but this episode actually made me chuckle a bit. Grunkle Stan gained several awesomeness points for the note he wrote with his mouth.


Side note: I'm now convinced the two cops are gay. There's so much subtext in this episode it's pretty much plain text.

[Karlito]

That episode was good, but now I won't have anything new to watch next week.

Spoiler:  Credits Cipher (click to show/hide)

E. Pluribus Trembly

[Remalle]

K guys, something I've been pondering.  So you know how Legend of Korra is getting a small time skip between Air and Spirit?  Since together they still only make up the first season, what if between Season One and Season Two (or Books Two and Three), there was an even larger time skip, possibly even up to decades?  Since it's been seventy years since the end of the last series, most of our protagonists will still be alive to see Sozin's Comer return.  I kind of want to see that happen in some form!  Also, since grown-up!Aang was such an incredible badass, can you all imagine how much of a badass grown-up!Korra will be?
Of course, I doubt Nickelodeon would let them age up the heroes too much.  It's still ostensibly a kid's show, so they'll probably insist on the protagonists staying young.

[Mageziya]

Spoiler: Gravity Falls, Episode 8 (click to show/hide)

I really liked the continuity in this episode, notably with Gideon appearing again. "Ops, dropped a tomato." *Chucks a tomato at Stan.*

Also like how they set up Paciprica (Or how ever you spell her name.), with her appearing in the previous episode, allowing for background knowledge of her snobbishness, while still providing enough info this episode that you didn't have to watch the last episode to understand here character.

The end of the episode:
Mabel: Wants to end with not caring about what happened.
Dipper: Nope, not letting that happen.

On another note, the SDCC trailer had several clips from this episode. When I saw the collapsing whatever (Later revealed to be peanut brittle.) in the trailer I thought it would be another wax statue. I was waaaaaaay off.

Also, Two things bother me about this episode:
One: Mabel taking out such a large chunk of peanut brittle at once.(This doesn't really matter, just a tiny detail)
Two: How un-alarmed the 8 & 1/2th president was at technology.

A final unrelated note: Anyone want top take bets on how apeshit "Truth-Seekers" become after this episode? After all, its theme was conspiracy.

[penguinofhonor]

Spoiler: Gravity Falls, Episode 8 (click to show/hide)

One: Mabel taking out such a large chunk of peanut brittle at once.(This doesn't really matter, just a tiny detail)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Peanut brittle is the most delicious type of candy in the world. I'd have taken a huge chunk too.

Spoiler: Gravity Falls, Episode 8 (click to show/hide)

Two: How un-alarmed the 8 & 1/2th president was at technology.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I think handwaving that was good writing, first because he's crazy and second because it really isn't necessary to have a flipping-out-over-technology scene for every single time travel thing. Even if it's realistic, it's a dumb plot element that really doesn't serve any narrative purpose.

Basically plot > realism, for me. It's like inexplicably letting two people converse through a language barrier. A language barrier scene doesn't really add anything to any of the characters or improve the plot, so why bother?

Spoiler: GFS1E8, my own reaction (click to show/hide)

I was really expecting them to lose at the end of this episode, to continue the theme so far of all the adults denying that anything weird is happening. Maybe this means that they'll actually start openly discovering the magic stuff soon.

Also I didn't really expect Gideon to be just wandering around after the end of his episode. Seems that he's not completely consumed by his revenge.

Finally, the National Treasure pun in the name was fantastic. Definitely one of the best episodes so far.

[kaijyuu]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

It was still pioneer day, so the president didn't even see any new technology. Trains existed in his time. He didn't see Grunkle Stan's car. The only thing I can think of he might've noticed was clothing styles for the kids and the cops.

[Karlito]

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The only silly nitpicky thing I could find to complain about in that episode was Trembly's comment at the end about George Washington. Washington would have been dead for over 40 years before Trembly took office, so it's unlikely that they would have known each other personally.

I don't know why that of all things broke my suspension of disbelief, since it really doesn't matter at all.

[Jopax]

So I barge into the thread, see something about Gravity Falls, it sounds familiar so I check it out on YT.

Trailer seems interesting, so I get what I can find on that one site that's bad for you.

After watching the first 7 episodes in one sitting (well kinda, I did go to grab some food), I gotta say, might fine show, I really like the wacky humor, the voice acting can be a bit annoying at times (Mable comes to mind, but I'm getting used to her).

What I like best though is the art style and the general atmosphere, really hits the sweet spot of a small mid US town (not that I know how that should feel, just a guess from the popular culture).

Also, intro, one of the best damn things, really love the whole thing

[Mageziya]

Welcome to the fandom!

Okay, we need to come up with a unique phrase to say welcome to the fandom for gravity falls.

Spell check doesn't recognize the word fandom. Weird.