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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Welcome aboard Air Shaggy and Scooby!
« Reply #705 on: July 26, 2012, 05:39:54 pm »
I wouldn't say that the main character How to Train Your Dragon had an unfounded technical prowess. He gets a pretty decent leg at the end.

There a How to Train Your Dragon TV show coming up, called Riders of Burke. Whats noteworthy is that its suppose to share cannon with the first movie and the eventual sequel. And its suppose to keep the same voice cast and its suppose to keep the same quality of cg as from the movie.
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« Reply #706 on: July 26, 2012, 05:49:24 pm »
Sorry I communicated badly at that point. As I always said "Genius isn't a plothole, geniuses exist. It is whether or not they earn their genius that calls to question". He is a learned genius so what I meant was that the fact that he has so much more technological know how then everyone else makes sense so that isn't a problem.

Or short is: I meant his technological prowress made sense. Opps.

In anime (sorta since one is China animation) it would be a lot like the difference between Yakkate Japan! and Master Cooking Boy. They are both obviously geniuses and prodigy... but one has genuin practice while the other just had skill without practice.
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« Reply #707 on: July 26, 2012, 06:44:26 pm »
Quote from: Neonivek on July 26, 2012, 05:26:49 pm
Then it made me ask: How many movies and shows involve characters who seem contrary to the setting?
Depends how nitpicky you want to be. Characters that act contrary to everyone else, or characters that act contrary to what the setting should be (but all the characters act that way)?

I can't really think of any of the former, but the latter is all over the place (any show in a past or present time period is going to have characters that act like people during the time period it was made). Road to El Dorado had both Spaniards and native americans who act like modern day Americans.

But yeah, shows with just one (or a few) characters that act culturally distinct without reason (so Gargoyles wouldn't fit, since the culture shock is justified) don't seem that common in animation, though I could name a live action show or two with it (Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves with Kevin Costner).



Haven't seen How to Train Your Dragon, nor read the books, so can't really comment.
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« Reply #708 on: July 26, 2012, 06:54:35 pm »
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characters that act culturally distinct without reason (so Gargoyles wouldn't fit, since the culture shock is justified) don't seem that common in animation

It happens when you jump into comedic characters quite easily. Since being realistic to the setting becomes secondary.

I'll ignore Genie from Aladin. They explained it quite a few times why he has all these modern day references (he can time travel). Timon and Pumba however don't have such an excuse (Before you mention their solo show... I should state that it has fallen into discontinuity thanks to Lionking 1.5).

Though I need a good example outside of Disney...

Also character's acting outside the era the setting is based in is fine so long as everyone else is acting that way. If everyone is speaking in "Ye Olde English" and the main character isn't, then there is a problem. Though yes this is a common problem in live action and an uncommon one in animation.
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« Reply #709 on: July 26, 2012, 08:05:09 pm »
Speaking of dragons, I think this show is pretty fun (it's french)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-k-e-goaIY

Just a sample, I don't think there are many complete episodes there, for instance can't find part 1/3 of the first episode :P

Apparently it spawned a CGI movie, or the other way around, I don't know.
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« Reply #710 on: July 26, 2012, 08:19:39 pm »
Quote from: Sergius on July 26, 2012, 08:05:09 pm
Speaking of dragons, I think this show is pretty fun (it's french)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-k-e-goaIY

Just a sample, I don't think there are many complete episodes there, for instance can't find part 1/3 of the first episode :P

Apparently it spawned a CGI movie, or the other way around, I don't know.

Oh that. Its on Netflix, or it was on Netflix, as is the actual movie.

The tv show itself, is uh, meh kinda. I dont find its plots to be that compelling, even though its world is quite amazing.

The movie is pretty good actually. I suggest the movie over the tv show.
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« Reply #711 on: July 26, 2012, 09:39:46 pm »
I've been looking for some non-English western shows to watch. I feel like nobody watches those, it's either anime or English cartoons. There have to be some good unappreciated gems.
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« Reply #712 on: July 26, 2012, 09:43:12 pm »
Quote from: penguinofhonor on July 26, 2012, 09:39:46 pm
I've been looking for some non-English western shows to watch. I feel like nobody watches those, it's either anime or English cartoons. There have to be some good unappreciated gems.

Like Code Lyoko and Cybersix?

There have been others that SEEMED like they arn't english but I don't know them officially.
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« Reply #713 on: July 29, 2012, 11:01:17 pm »
Gravity Falls, episode 7, Double Dipper.

Spoiler: Info assembled from promo stuff. (click to show/hide)

Anyway it airs on the 10th of august, quiet a bit away from now.
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« Reply #714 on: July 29, 2012, 11:05:22 pm »
I've seen it done well before.

It REALLY depends on what they are trying to do with it.
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« Reply #715 on: July 29, 2012, 11:19:31 pm »
The promo for it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M4C3SLbrjg
This show seems like it is going to fluctuate between episodes orientated around paranormal stuff and episodes involved with normal life stuff that has paranormal butting in at points.
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Every dwarf, every dwarven man, women, and child, that comes to our forts will die there; it's truly sad when you think about it. And we ask our selves, why? Why do we push forward, knowing this fate, that we are destined for failure? Because, this game grasps the concept of mortality. Some games you can never lose, but we all stop eventually, causing a 'death' to those game's 'worlds'. Dwarf Fortress gives us a definite end, knowing that we will leave that world eventually, and move on to more.

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« Reply #716 on: July 29, 2012, 11:28:55 pm »
Quote from: Mageziya on July 29, 2012, 11:19:31 pm
The promo for it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M4C3SLbrjg
This show seems like it is going to fluctuate between episodes orientated around paranormal stuff and episodes involved with normal life stuff that has paranormal butting in at points.

Ohh my goodnesss... this show better have a proper Finale

I am tired of unresolved or non-endings.
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« Reply #717 on: July 30, 2012, 12:27:32 pm »
The plan is for this series to have 3 seasons, in total spanning over the summer (Presumably a season for a month of the summer.), similar to a myth arc. Apparently the 1st season is to end on a cliff hanger. Currently there is no reason to cancel the show, so it will likely make it.
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« Reply #718 on: August 01, 2012, 10:35:31 pm »
Boop! Sorry for double post, But...

Spoiler: Gravity Falls SDCC (click to show/hide)
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« Reply #719 on: August 02, 2012, 12:16:23 am »
Totally called it. If that's what he turns out to be, anyway.
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