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Constant Payne, never aired?
I think I would have watched that...
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I just watched an episode of Adventure time. My brain is still going what the fuck just happened as I was watching it and when it ended. some cool themes but then it went right into "acid" type thing which screwed my brain over
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I just watched an episode of Adventure time. My brain is still going what the fuck just happened as I was watching it and when it ended. some cool themes but then it went right into "acid" type thing which screwed my brain over

The thing with me is that I am so dense to the weirdness of adventure time that the show can be outright boring at times.

Not normal boring... I mean REALLY BORING! Mostly because the show, while creative in dressing, is uncreative in actual plot development.
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Gargoyles pretty much goes like this:

Boring boring boring boring AWESOME boring good boring AWESOME boring boring AWESOME

The Magic Canoe kinda burned me out, but I sat down to watch a couple more this morning. Came across a particularly good one about Brooklyn having second thoughts about leadership. Character development! About someone I actually care about! Finally!



I really, really wish there was more animation made for adults besides comedies. I can't enjoy some of these series as much as I "should" since I'm not mesmerized by funny looking monsters and flashy fight scenes like I would be if I were 8 years old. Western animation has a bad habit of filling up time with flashy scenes without substance, precisely because they can get away with it and their target audience won't care. They can show 15 minutes of strange looking people exchanging punches and the scenery being broken to bits, and kids will love it. And here I am, asking for depth. Maybe I'm asking too much.

But then again, there are shows like Avatar and MLP that have lots of depth and don't fill up time with fluff scenes.
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Gargoyles pretty much goes like this:

Boring boring boring boring AWESOME boring good boring AWESOME boring boring AWESOME

The Magic Canoe kinda burned me out, but I sat down to watch a couple more this morning. Came across a particularly good one about Brooklyn having second thoughts about leadership. Character development! About someone I actually care about! Finally!



I really, really wish there was more animation made for adults besides comedies. I can't enjoy some of these series as much as I "should" since I'm not mesmerized by funny looking monsters and flashy fight scenes like I would be if I were 8 years old. Western animation has a bad habit of filling up time with flashy scenes without substance, precisely because they can get away with it and their target audience won't care. They can show 15 minutes of strange looking people exchanging punches and the scenery being broken to bits, and kids will love it. And here I am, asking for depth. Maybe I'm asking too much.

But then again, there are shows like Avatar and MLP that have lots of depth and don't fill up time with fluff scenes.

Have you watched Archer? It is fast paced, hard hitting and made of awesome. It IS a comedy. It is filled with awesome fight scenes. But that does not subtract from the characters.

2 seasons available on DVD and netflix, I believe a 3rd season is coming out soon.
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I really should sit down and watch some Archer, since it features one of my favorite voice actors, H. Jon Benjamin.
And, I see at least a few episodes with Jeffrey Tambor. Yeah, my interest is piqued.

Pseudo-edit: HAH. I found  myself looking at a few stills of Archer and thinking "Why does this remind me of Awesome X from Frisky Dingo?" And voila....same series creator. Apparently I've gotten good at recognizing animation lineages.
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Archer's action scenes are really there for comedy purposes and are few and far between. You DEFINATELY shouldn't watch Archer for the action.

Though I can't say I havn't watched a show for a single sequence that may last a single minute every episode.

I watched Spygroove ONLY for the inane conversations they can have (especially at the end). My favorite was when they discussed which one of the two main characters was peanut butter and which one was jelly.
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That makes sense. A lot of Frisky Dingo was the inane conversations Killface would have with his minions, etc. And many of those guys also worked on SeaLab 2021, which was virtually nothing but in(s)ane conversations.
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That makes sense. A lot of Frisky Dingo was the inane conversations Killface would have with his minions, etc. And many of those guys also worked on SeaLab 2021, which was virtually nothing but in(s)ane conversations.

My favorite of which was "What if we could be a robot" for Sealab... and uhhh... Hmm I just don't like Frisky Dingo.

But otherwise I prefer Spygroove's inane conversations over Frisky Dingos and Sealab. Probably because theirs isn't sociopathic and it isn't a black comedy.

Which is something I noticed... They are always black comedies or at least dark ones.
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I dunno why, but I have an uncanny ability to find shows with exactly the aesops I need. Waaay back in November, I was all angsty about not getting what I wanted and being constantly disappointed; cue a MLP episode about just that. Hit me pretty hard.

Come today, feeling worthless without goals in life, and along comes a Gargoyles episode. One shot character who said exactly what I've been saying: "I'm out of school, with no trade, no job, and no hope." It was a rather mediocre episode (though great for a Magic Canoe one), but just what I needed to hear... well except I doubt I'll be pulling any magic spears out of my ass anytime soon. Opinion of this show up seven fold.


There are a lot of valid criticisms for western animation, but their tendency to push morals on the audience isn't one I'll accept. It can be done bad, true (sonic says: don't get molested!), but when done right, they can be just as valid of social and life commentary as any humongous novel or big shot film. Just smaller and more personal in scale.
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There are a lot of valid criticisms for western animation, but their tendency to push morals on the audience isn't one I'll accept. It can be done bad, true (sonic says: don't get molested!), but when done right, they can be just as valid of social and life commentary as any humongous novel or big shot film. Just smaller and more personal in scale.
kaijyuu speaks truth. I remember an episode of Static Shock that climaxed with one of the main characters being injured in a school shooting brought on by excessive bullying. I seem to recall that they avoided dropping an overly-large anvil, and it was a nice break from the superpowered mutant villains of the week.

Come to think of it, I think SS did a lot of episodes like that.
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It did?  I forgot most of the Static Shock episodes I watched.
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I never watched much of it, myself. Though I might be a bit prejudiced since the Justice League episode where what's-his-face was featured was one of the absolute worst.
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For, in order that men should resist injustice, something more is necessary than that they should think injustice unpleasant. They must think injustice absurd; above all, they must think it startling. They must retain the violence of a virgin astonishment. When the pessimist looks at any infamy, it is to him, after all, only a repetition of the infamy of existence. But the optimist sees injustice as something discordant and unexpected, and it stings him into action.

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It did?  I forgot most of the Static Shock episodes I watched.
It's just a few that stand out to me. I know it wasn't the greatest show that ever aired, and I won't waste the bandwidth finding and downloading any of the episodes, but every once in a while they hit something good.
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their tendency to push morals on the audience isn't one I'll accept

I have to agree too. Even if I don't agree with the moral I sort of like the set up of "Moral lesson" episodes. They are always about a character learning and growing as a person or about an issue that cannot be solved in an ordinary way. I never take it as an imposition upon myself. Some of them even give you a little advice in stange situations.

Heck the worst "Moral" episode I ever seen wasn't even in western animation it was actually in an anime where the moral was that when you are in a new country you should completely conform because that is what is best. Mind you I am sure the moral they WANTED to tell you was that you have to give a little but you had to extrapolate that.

My favorite "Moral" episode I can think of would have to be an episode of Jem that dealt with being too generous. Mind you the episode was terrible, but it did deal with the issue.
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