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Neonivek

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« Reply #2385 on: March 21, 2017, 05:21:00 pm »

In all fairness do we know she is dead? I mean she only has a cut on her neck.

No one said she was dead.
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« Reply #2386 on: March 21, 2017, 05:23:23 pm »

That's a pretty decent-sized puddle of blood to be coming out of a neck.

I mean, this is a universe with magic and cyborgs and magical cyborgs, so she might return, but she looks kinda dead in that still.
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« Reply #2387 on: March 21, 2017, 05:27:55 pm »

Yes but she had rocks fall ontop of her.

In cartoon logic it means it might have healed her. (actually that is a very good point me... TYPICALLY these types of deaths kind of leave themselves open to reversals)

OR! she might have been wearing a parachute.

Actually I think the higher rating means they might be less prone to the whole... "Well if you don't have a body, it means they are still alive" tendency a LOT of shows do... But I still can't put it past them.

Plus there being six of them means these are disposable female characters who are entirely interchangeable (IN YOUR FACE COBRA!). So there is no need to keep them alive.
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« Reply #2388 on: March 21, 2017, 06:00:00 pm »

In all fairness do we know she is dead? I mean she only has a cut on her neck.

No one said she was dead.
Since her head didn't fall off but there was a big spurt of blood, that was probably a carotid artery being slashed open, possibly windpipe too, I can't blame them for not showing bubbles coming out if it was, and opening the carotid is the "off-switch" counterpart to the "sleep button" of applying pressure to it and the vagus nerve.
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« Reply #2389 on: March 21, 2017, 07:15:55 pm »

Dude, she ded. Jack nearly de-fucking-capitated her. At least some of the others survive though as evidenced by the trailer.
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« Reply #2390 on: March 22, 2017, 07:31:34 pm »

This is a bit old, but I just watched it and liked it.

Infinity Train. It's a short done by the folks at Cartoon Network. I find myself hoping that an actual TV show of this is made some day...
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« Reply #2391 on: March 22, 2017, 07:36:48 pm »

Dude, she ded. Jack nearly de-fucking-capitated her. At least some of the others survive though as evidenced by the trailer.

While personally I know she is LIKELY dead.

This wouldn't be anywhere freeken close to the most "Yep dead!" I've seen characters bounce back from simply because they fell off a cliff, were in an explosion, or had a building collapse on them.

For example there was a character who was shot through the chest and fell into a pile of super caustic miasma. That person came back perfectly unscathed (And no clones or fake outs involved)

And yet it STILL wouldn't be the most "Yep dead!"... The #1 is probably the hardest to topple from its position.
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« Reply #2392 on: March 22, 2017, 08:54:46 pm »

You do know what arterial spray means right?

When the blood pressure in your brain drops quickly it triggers a little bundle of nerves in your neck which fires a signal straight down into the heart muscles saying "OH FUCK PUMP FASTER GODDAMMIT WE GON' DIE FOOL!" which usually helps turn a blackout into a bit of dizziness or recoverable greyout... but when your carotid is slashed open with a sword?

You're blacking out within a couple of seconds, and dead within thirty. She was out cold when her knees hit the ground, and by the time he turned look down the hall to see how far away the others were she was dead.
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« Reply #2393 on: March 22, 2017, 09:18:07 pm »

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Anyhow here is the LAW of fiction

If a character dies, but you do not have the body (or if said body gets obscured)... They not only might be alive, but whatever injury they might have had will be healed.

It doesn't matter how impossible to survive it might have been. In fact don't even expect an explanation.
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« Reply #2394 on: March 22, 2017, 09:32:50 pm »


Anyhoo, @Sirus, ya Infinity Train is... interesting. A lot of support has been shown by fans for a short season to be made, but I doubt it will get a season for a few reasons, 1.) Though it's somewhat darker than most CN shows, it's not quite up [adult swim]'s alley it seems to me. 2.) Obviously, while having established a cult following, it's appeal is fairly limited methinks. 3.) It's not quite up to standards. I don't want to be overly harsh, but there's a lot missing in terms of art direction, voice acting, and plot-hooks. This could be for a number of reasons, but none of them good for the show.

PERSONALLY, I would like to see it get like a 10-13 episode season just to see what they can do with an actual budget, cast, and writing staff. Obviously, Owen Dennis (the show's creator, writer, and storyboard artist) is wickedly talented, and some parts of his writing are reeeaaallly good, but other parts are little stiff. IDK, It's up in the air for me.
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« Reply #2395 on: March 22, 2017, 09:36:36 pm »

She's kind of important dead, would cheapen the impact of the whole scene for her to just pop up "yeah, I'm ok, had well over 30 seconds of arterial bleeding before you walked off, my brain was deprived of oxygen for that whole time, and all those rocks fell on me... but no biggie really" later.

That's only a law in whichever fiction you're thinking of, and as it doesn't apply to any number of stories/characters in that same condition I'd say it can be safely ignored.

Tartakovsky wants to finish this story well, he's not going to just have her pop up "oh yeah, Jack, you never actually killed any humans, I'm fine, now I think your dad wants you to get in the giant robot unless you wake up or something" out of nowhere.
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« Reply #2396 on: March 22, 2017, 09:40:10 pm »

What so Samurai Jack is dead then? :P

Lethally wounded, traumatic shockwave, and drowning. (Of course, I am going to bet... Someone is inexplicably around to save him.. Either that or the fall into the water healed his wounds)

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Actually I remember there was a joke I made while watching Samurai Champloo (I think that was its name)... Where I said that the main characters could not die so long as they were in water.

OHHH BOY was this hilariously true!

And lo and behold! Samurai Jack is critically injured, dying, and fell into water.
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« Reply #2397 on: March 22, 2017, 09:45:45 pm »

Brah, she not coming back. Trust. She a side hoe at best, not even the MAIN hoe.

Also, guys, Victor & Valentino is a good af pilot, and I hope it gets made for realsies.
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« Reply #2398 on: March 22, 2017, 09:46:57 pm »

Brah, she not coming back. Trust

I am not saying she will.

Just... don't be surprised. To admit next episode might feature them burying her body.
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« Reply #2399 on: March 22, 2017, 10:09:03 pm »

*exasperation*
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