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« Reply #2220 on: November 08, 2016, 05:20:59 pm »

...No, saying that it "revels in being completely disrespectful to the source material" is not an opinion, it's an (incorrect) statement used to base an opinion off of.

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« Reply #2221 on: November 08, 2016, 05:27:55 pm »

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Every single time the old show comes up it's basically said outright to be superior in a variety of ways.

No your thinking more about how the characters constantly refer to how the Teen Titans aren't serious and often how they "used" to be serious or something along those lines. The rhetoric behind it is how everyone keeps trying to turn Teen Titans Go into Teen Titans... But Teen Titans Go is ultimately how it should be.

Whenever they directly have a episode ABOUT the old show their usual conclusion is "New show better, you guys should be ashamed" which they surprisingly do more often then I personally thought.

And I think people are oversensitive about Teen Titans Go... But to act like they don't directly troll their audience is to FLAT OUT not understand their humor. Heck they have an entire episode dedicated to having absolutely no comedy (and not in the "so unhumorous that it is funny" sort of way).

They play against the typical cartoon format. It is why the majority of episodes go against the grain. It is why their "Girl Power" episode is a sarcastic take that at the genre, it is why their episode about Mother Nature ends with a pro modern life, it is why their Cow episode ends with an actual moral being the joke.
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« Reply #2222 on: November 08, 2016, 05:29:28 pm »

Putnam, I'm really not sure where your head is here, but you seem to be acting argumentative simply for the purpose of being argumentative.

You find no problem with TT go, other people do.  Instead of framing your argument in a constructive fashion you are just saying "no, you're wrong", which may just be the actual worst possible way to inform someone.

You could, alternately, point out places where you feel that the program has praised or framed the source material in a positive light (and not just saying that it has happened, which I certainly haven't seen any sign of).  But you aren't doing that, and are just coming across as arrogant and belligerent.

I mean, seriously, I wouldn't even blame you for getting upset at me for this interchange.  But that is because I recognize that what I am saying could be quantified as an attack.
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« Reply #2223 on: November 08, 2016, 05:33:52 pm »

Whenever they directly have a episode ABOUT the old show their usual conclusion is "New show better, you guys should be ashamed" which they surprisingly do more often then I personally thought.
You could, alternately, point out places where you feel that the program has praised or framed the source material in a positive light (and not just saying that it has happened, which I certainly haven't seen any sign of).  But you aren't doing that, and are just coming across as arrogant and belligerent.

https://youtu.be/TUiIdtwP4WM?t=36

And the whole episode with Control Freak where they try to get themselves canceled to bring the old show back...

Every episode I've seen that references previous stuff requires a squint and a backflip to say that they're outright saying the new one is better.

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« Reply #2224 on: November 08, 2016, 05:34:47 pm »

The Clown episode? The Too Serious episode? The Return of Slade?

I should state though... I love the Too Serious episode! One of my favorites (and frankly... It could be argued that it is right.)

I loathe the Clown Episode mostly on the basis that "The things of our childhood should not grow up with us."... Which it did by not understanding what it means to "grow up with us"... and for once it didn't set up the contrivance as part of the joke.

Which is kind of where Teen Titans kind of excels... It is why the "Too Serious" episode is one of my favorites. The Teen Titans get too serious and end up becoming so serious that it becomes stupidly silly melodrama.
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« Reply #2225 on: November 08, 2016, 05:36:22 pm »

Good example, thank you for providing some context.
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« Reply #2226 on: November 08, 2016, 05:48:06 pm »

Meh not worth dragging out the argument. :P
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« Reply #2227 on: November 09, 2016, 01:44:39 am »

Well now that we can all agree that Teen Titans Go is literal Hitler, let's move on to promising new animation.

The topic was spurred by The Infinity Train... Despite missing the mark juuuuuuuuuuust a little bit (I mean, it's just slightly off. It doesn't quite come to together perfectly), it looks to be a promising show.

Any other interesting pilots of new series out that you guys are digging???
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« Reply #2228 on: November 09, 2016, 01:45:35 am »

Really? I didn't think Teen Titans Go was bad at all... I tried as hard as I could to explain why people didn't like it without resorting to just calling it bad.
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« Reply #2229 on: November 09, 2016, 03:04:07 am »

Well now that we can all agree that Teen Titans Go is literal Hitler, let's move on to promising new animation.
The topic was spurred by The Infinity Train... Despite missing the mark juuuuuuuuuuust a little bit (I mean, it's just slightly off. It doesn't quite come to together perfectly), it looks to be a promising show.
Any other interesting pilots of new series out that you guys are digging???

The topic was spurred by the announcement of Young Justice being renewed...and while not a new series, it was a bit obscure, and I certainly recommend checking it out if you're not familiar with it already.
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« Reply #2230 on: November 09, 2016, 03:05:01 am »

Well now that we can all agree that Teen Titans Go is literal Hitler, let's move on to promising new animation.
The topic was spurred by The Infinity Train... Despite missing the mark juuuuuuuuuuust a little bit (I mean, it's just slightly off. It doesn't quite come to together perfectly), it looks to be a promising show.
Any other interesting pilots of new series out that you guys are digging???

The topic was spurred by the announcement of Young Justice being renewed...and while not a new series, it was a bit obscure, and I certainly recommend checking it out if you're not familiar with it already.

Also DEFINATELY watch the Young Justice Teen Titans Go crossover! it is HILLARIOUS... even if you don't normally like the show.
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« Reply #2231 on: November 09, 2016, 11:28:13 am »

I actually don't mind any spinoff silly shows, like all the Lego stuff or even that one with the tiny Marvel guys that I forgot the name of.

I like silly humor, I just don't have time to watch TTGo. But my brother watches it in the other room so I hear all the jokes. They're pretty good. Like that episode where Robin tries to make the others think instead of following orders (and they start just doing whatever they read in a fortune cookie), the moral of the episode was that Robin was wrong in thinking that they could think by themselves. I thought that was hilarious.

But since so many people hate this stuff or feel personally insulted by the animators or whatever, I can just watch in the sidelines with a healthy serving of popcorn, neither defending nor attacking the show.

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Also DEFINATELY watch the Young Justice Teen Titans Go crossover! it is HILLARIOUS... even if you don't normally like the show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTQZykJP23g

Heh, pretty fun.


Also someone mentioned something how a supervillain caused the reboot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N74D9xl0b-A

Seems to me like the creators of this show are actually trying a "take that!" at the Network, but somehow every old fan feels this is them mocking them? Um.
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« Reply #2232 on: November 09, 2016, 12:02:12 pm »

I'll... Avoid the argument for now.
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« Reply #2233 on: November 10, 2016, 10:10:58 pm »

Hey so I finally got around to watching Gravity Falls. 'twas pretty good!
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« Reply #2234 on: November 11, 2016, 10:04:36 am »

Hey so I finally got around to watching Gravity Falls. 'twas pretty good!

Yeah, enjoyable show. The best part for me was following the reddit with each newly released episode, where people deciphered all the hidden codes and pointed out secrets that I had missed. It's nice to see writers who care enough to do stuff like this.

I do feel like it ended far too abruptly however. They never gave a very satisfying explanation for what Lee went through on the other side of the portal. And then the finale just felt like a lot of half-developed ideas slapped together in a barely coherent story. But at least it got a proper ending, which is more than can be said for many shows.
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