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Author Topic: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread.  (Read 313207 times)

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« Reply #1770 on: January 05, 2015, 03:33:19 pm »

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« Reply #1771 on: January 05, 2015, 03:44:16 pm »

I don't know, I had kind of heard there was supposed to be some gay stuff, and I still manage to miss all of it.
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« Reply #1772 on: January 05, 2015, 03:51:35 pm »

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« Reply #1773 on: January 05, 2015, 05:02:30 pm »

I mean, I agree that the scenes implied romantic interest, but only retrospectively in light of the ending. But that's a legitimate way of storytelling, so it's not like that's a criticism. Surprises that shed new light on past information are kind of a staple thing in fiction. At the time they aired, though, I was pretty sure they were just signs of a close friendship (which isn't exactly contradictory since close friendship and romance have pretty significant overlaps).
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Bill is watching.
« Reply #1774 on: January 05, 2015, 05:09:32 pm »

iirc the author confirmed they were lesbians. I have not seen the show though. Because it's anime. This is about 'murican cartoons, wtf is this?
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« Reply #1775 on: January 05, 2015, 05:10:42 pm »

It's an American show, you see. Although it is animated in Korea, IIRC.
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In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
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« Reply #1776 on: January 05, 2015, 05:11:28 pm »

It's an American show, you see. Although it is animated in Korea, IIRC.

all american shows are animated in korea, even the simpsons. But it is still anime. It's that style and such. It is anathema to american cartoons.
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« Reply #1777 on: January 05, 2015, 05:12:55 pm »

It's an American show, you see. Although it is animated in Korea, IIRC.

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« Reply #1778 on: January 05, 2015, 05:14:59 pm »

A lot of American cartoons are animated in Korea.

It's an American show, you see. Although it is animated in Korea, IIRC.

all american shows are animated in korea, even the simpsons. But it is still anime. It's that style and such. It is anathema to american cartoons.
Anime fans for some reason seem to get pissed when people say Avatar is anime. I guess there's some strict definition that it has to be produced in Japan.

And, since the people that produce the show operate in America, and so do the people that came up with the ideas/scripts/etc, it counts as American.
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« Reply #1779 on: January 05, 2015, 05:16:28 pm »

well as an anti-anime american cartoon fan I consider avatar anime, and a half-breed at best.

Although Akira, Grave of the Fireflies, and I guess a few other animes were okay. But most of them are rape-y and awful.

Or maybe I just saw too much urotsuki doji and dragon pink.
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« Reply #1780 on: January 05, 2015, 05:24:52 pm »

Can confirm that Avatar is neither rapey nor awful. And it's style has the more complete talking animation of western stuff, rather than the 2-frame mouth-flapping (which is one of the things that bugs me in Anime).
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« Reply #1781 on: January 05, 2015, 05:26:37 pm »

But most of them are rape-y and awful.
Wow. That's... uh... not really accurate at all, provided you stay out of the intentionally-perverted genres.

... And your two examples are apparently porn, so okay there's your first problem. Japanese porn is no more progressive than Western porn, although its dehumanizing quirks are different ones.

Avatar is significantly better at this.
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In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
“So that the room will be empty.”
At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.

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« Reply #1782 on: January 05, 2015, 05:31:11 pm »

Is that some weird cartoon racism I see?

I used to have prejudice about anime, but now I don't really care if cartoon I'm watching is anime or not. All that matters is whether I like what I'm watching or I don't. Both Last Airbender and Legend of Korra were good shows.

Also I read somewhere that the whole animator crew were forced to watch whole anime titles of Cowboy Bebop-tier while working on Last Airbender exactly to make it look like anime. But that's probably not true.
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« Reply #1783 on: January 05, 2015, 05:34:21 pm »

Is that some weird cartoon racism I see?

I used to have prejudice about anime, but now I don't really care if cartoon I'm watching is anime or not. Both Last Airbender and Legend of Korra were good shows.

Also I read somewhere that the whole animator crew were forced to watch whole anime titles of Cowboy Bebop-tier while working on Last Airbender exactly to make it look like anime. But that's probably not true.

no it's not racism. Not liking a style of animation does not equate to racism. I do not not like anime because it is made by the Japanese, I do not like anime because it sucks and has terrible depictions of women. But mostly because the artstyle is dull as all hell.

Also the urotsuki doji and dragon pink comment was a joke, of course they are porn. The creator of urotsuki doji says he used tentacles (and apparently other than traditional japanese art, this was one of the first uses) because he was forbidden from drawing penises.
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« Reply #1784 on: January 05, 2015, 05:37:16 pm »

Okay, I see your point now. You should probably watch more Ghibli creations.
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