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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #120 on: June 05, 2012, 10:36:57 pm »

Oh that reminds me, everyone who hasn't should watch The Thief and the Cobbler. It's a Disney-esque animated film with really great animation and art, but had a very, very, troubled production. The version that went to theatres had a lot of unfinished scenes cut from it, the youtube version I linked to has partially finished scenes and mockups and such put in.

Are we getting into movies now?

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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #121 on: June 05, 2012, 10:47:15 pm »

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From 1986 to 1988, Hanna-Barbera Productions produced Hanna-Barbera Superstars 10, a series of syndicated telefilms featuring their most popular characters, including Yogi Bear, Huckleberry Hound, The Flintstones, and The Jetsons. Scooby-Doo, Scrappy-Doo, and Shaggy starred in three of these movies: Scooby-Doo Meets the Boo Brothers (1987), Scooby-Doo and the Ghoul School (1988), and Scooby-Doo and the Reluctant Werewolf (1989), . These three films took their tone from the early-1980s Scooby-Doo and Scrappy-Doo entries, and featured the characters encountering actual monsters and ghosts rather than masqueraded people. Scooby-Doo and Shaggy later appeared as the narrators of the made-for-TV movie Arabian Nights, originally broadcast by TBS in 1994, Don Messick's final outing as the original voice of Scooby-Doo.

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I think I only watched Scooby Doo meets the Boo Brothers. I think it was basically Shaggy and Scooby go Down South and encounter some mildly racist stereotypes, or something.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #122 on: June 06, 2012, 12:06:08 am »

While I never saw the show when I was younger, I was watching a few episodes of "Might Max" about a month ago. Despite it being a show mostly to tie in with a toy line I did find the cartoon to be quite well made. The plots were interesting and there was a nice amount of mythology worked into them. Also Norman kicks righteous ass.

One cartoon I did enjoy watching was "Duckula". My childhood was saturated with ducks, so many ducks!
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #123 on: June 06, 2012, 07:21:53 am »

Alright, if we're doing somewhat obscure animated movies:

Lensman

Rock & Rule (a somewhat more kid-friendly Heavy Metal, with a great soundtrack and Iggy Pop as the main villain)

Animalympics (pretty much what it says on the label...it's the Olympics, done with animals. Sounds gimmicky but it's quite inventive.) -- also interesting in that one of the animators, Brad Bird, went on to write and direct Iron Giant, The Incredibles and Ratatouille.

The Plague Dogs (good film, however it's like the kid's version of The Road, done with talking dogs. BLEAK AS HELL.)

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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #124 on: June 06, 2012, 07:25:20 am »

Rock and Rule reminds me -

Anyone else here watch Metalocolypse?
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« Reply #125 on: June 06, 2012, 08:07:12 am »

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This reminds me of some older animated films:

Heavy Metal - basically an anthology of short SF stories with another framing tale tacked on. Each of the six "episodes" is almost completely different in tone and animation style. This being a sort of tribute/adaptation of once popular comic book magazine of the same name, it stays true to the themes the magazine was famous for. That is, lots of eroticism, gore and irreverent humour, all catering to the adolescent-like fantasies of adult males.
The soundtrack, as its title suggests, is chosen from well-known 80s metal bands' music, which makes for a fun ride.
Worth seeing for every fan of old-school SF and SF in general, if only to get a better notion of where do later SF films come from. E.g.the taxi driver in Luc Besson's "Fifth Element" as played by Bruce Willis is practically a carbon copy of Harry Canyon, the hero of one of HM's stories.
It had a sequel released in 2000-ish, but I don't know much about it, apart from the fact that it failed to achieve its predecessor's cult status.

Fire and Ice - now I don't really remember this one, apart from flashes of certain scenes etched in my memories of early childhood. My parents must have watched it on VHS(how else?) when I was little. Anyway, Frank Frazetta was involved in this one, meaning it's high fantasy in the vein of the Conan the Barbarian, with bulging muscles and buxom women(even more so than it was in Heavy Metal). Like the previous one, it's aimed at adults definitely.

Wizards - I've just stumbled upon this one. Can't wait to see it. I mean, Nazi wizards.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #126 on: June 06, 2012, 08:23:52 am »

Ralph Bakshi is one of those guys (like John Kricfalusi, one of his proteges) who has a crapton of talent....and no discipline in its use. And an ego that frequently gets in the way.

Heavy Metal is visually interesting but it gets boring pretty quick.

@GlyphGryph: Hells to the yes. I was a big fan of Home Movies (Brendon Small's earlier series on Cartoon Network), so I was all over Metalocalypse. Took me a couple of episodes to fully warm up to it, but I'm a bona fide fan.
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« Reply #127 on: June 06, 2012, 08:24:44 am »

I could never get into Home Movies. It wasn't bad, just didn't resonate with me.
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« Reply #128 on: June 06, 2012, 08:37:13 am »

I could never get into Home Movies. It wasn't bad, just didn't resonate with me.

It depends also on what episode you get in on. There were some pretty terrible episodes, but there were others that were almost genius.

Try watching the episode "Its time to pay the price" (probably not its name... but I liked it)

Or the episode where the kid has to make a history report.

The secret of Home Movies is that the movies always dirrectly reflect what is happening in the plot. (often in hillarious ways)
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #129 on: June 06, 2012, 08:45:01 am »

I could never get into Home Movies. It wasn't bad, just didn't resonate with me.
It's got a very...acquired sense of humor. Extremely dry. I was also a fan of Dr. Katz, which had much of the same kind of very dry, dialogue-based humor. Both shows had Tom Snyder involved with them, and if you ever watched the Late, Late Show when he was still hosting it...Snyder is an incredibly funny man but much of his humor is the kind of stuff that elicits droll chuckles rather than fits of laughter. He also didn't have a buttmonkey like Paul Shaffer to act as a cue for when people were supposed to laugh.

It's also where H. Jon Benjamin really got his break as a voice actor, and he's got the driest comedic voice I can think of.

Oh, and the episode where they made a public service announcement to remind kids not to stick marbles in their nose was priceless (and an early look at Brendon Small's love of metal).

I think for me personally, it resonated because when I was in high school I spent about half my day in the film/TV department working on short films and such, so I totally understood the whole "have big idea, don't have the resources, will make something half-assed instead" vibe.  :P
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #130 on: June 06, 2012, 09:02:42 am »

Idly browsing TvTropes sometimes brings up interesting stuff.

Who knew the 1940s superman cartoons were actually kinda good? Ridiculously cliche and silly by today's standards, but pretty awesome for its time. Especially with the animation quality; I see where the 90s Batman and Superman cartoons got a lot of their influence.
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« Reply #131 on: June 06, 2012, 09:07:55 am »

Speaking of old cartoons, the old pre-1933 Max Fleischer ones are certainly interesting. (Betty Boop, Popeye)  I'm pretty sure they were made on drugs.

Such as this one:

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« Reply #132 on: June 06, 2012, 09:26:45 am »

Lensman, Robot Carnival.....I have Sci-Fi's anime festivals to blame for really getting me into them.

Ralph Bakshi is probably responsible for several parents losing their shit when they find out the cartoon their kids rented wasn't ever intended for adults. I like Bakshi for his craft, but he was always way too concerned with sexualizing things. Still, he's like one of the godfathers of animation on both sides of the pond.

I never liked Heavy Metal other than for the supernatural elements. The Orb was a cool story piece. But everything else was mostly a showcase for T&A.

That's the other thing that defines 80s western and non-western animation for me, how it was still trying to figure how and where to separate itself from softcore hentai. Shows today may often seem infantile....but many 80s western cartoons and eastern animes had all the tact and restraint of a 15-year-old boy. But hey, without that era, how would we have ever gotten gems like Fist of the North Star, ect...

I'm both kind of saddened and relieved that local anime cons aren't so frequent anymore. Being a teenager hanging out with 40 year olds watching cartoons 40 year olds find entertaining was....an educational experience.
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« Reply #133 on: June 06, 2012, 09:27:44 am »

I guess I'll put this out there next

Duckman.
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« Reply #134 on: June 06, 2012, 11:06:20 pm »

Lensman?

LENSMAN???

Isn't that... anime? I'm pretty sure there isn't a Western animated version of Lensman. Robot Carnival would probably be disqualified from this thread, I think?

Light Years
This reminds me of some older animated films:

Heavy Metal - basically an anthology of short SF stories with another framing tale tacked on. Each of the six "episodes" is almost completely different in tone and animation style. This being a sort of tribute/adaptation of once popular comic book magazine of the same name, it stays true to the themes the magazine was famous for. That is, lots of eroticism, gore and irreverent humour, all catering to the adolescent-like fantasies of adult males.
The soundtrack, as its title suggests, is chosen from well-known 80s metal bands' music, which makes for a fun ride.
Worth seeing for every fan of old-school SF and SF in general, if only to get a better notion of where do later SF films come from. E.g.the taxi driver in Luc Besson's "Fifth Element" as played by Bruce Willis is practically a carbon copy of Harry Canyon, the hero of one of HM's stories.
It had a sequel released in 2000-ish, but I don't know much about it, apart from the fact that it failed to achieve its predecessor's cult status.

Fire and Ice - now I don't really remember this one, apart from flashes of certain scenes etched in my memories of early childhood. My parents must have watched it on VHS(how else?) when I was little. Anyway, Frank Frazetta was involved in this one, meaning it's high fantasy in the vein of the Conan the Barbarian, with bulging muscles and buxom women(even more so than it was in Heavy Metal). Like the previous one, it's aimed at adults definitely.

Wizards - I've just stumbled upon this one. Can't wait to see it. I mean, Nazi wizards.

Ok, Fire and Ice looks just awesome, and now I must watch it. Rotoscoped boobs FTW.

Anyone remembers... Pirates of Darkwater?
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