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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #105 on: June 05, 2012, 03:25:25 pm »

Jesus christ there are so many movies.  I was wrong the 'first movie' I was thinking about was 1998 but there are movies going back to the 80s.  Not surprising really.  The series kept switching between people and getting 'new' stuff.

Either way the culprits in Mystery INC are still human and their abilities are still explained even if it's sometimes far-fetched but come on the point here is anti-fantasy right?
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. Batman > You
« Reply #106 on: June 05, 2012, 03:25:46 pm »

I actually did see the show a handful of times, back when it was actually on-air.  I remember virtually nothing about it.  Hey, you remember those other MTV shows?  Like that one with the guy with the giant head and something about aliens?  I don't know what that was.

The first time I saw Aeon Flux, it was something like 4:30AM and I had absolutely no idea what was going on. It was definitely a trip.

And yeah, I remember "The Head", from "MTV's Oddities". I think that's what they were called, anyway. The guy had a little purple alien dude living in his skull.

It's amazing to think that there was once a time when MTV was actually responsible for pushing the creative envelope rather than holding it back or shoving it through the shredder.

The Maxx was an impressive show, and made me immediately seek out the comic book and read it from start to finish. It was even better.

From the most current shows, I don't know. I think Adventure Time and The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack are awesome.

From discontinued shows, Gargoyles (pre-Chronicles) was nearly as good as it got. I don't remember a single show ever that was better than that one (the original Batman TAS came close). And I've watched a lot of shows. If you haven't seen it, GET IT NOW.

A question aside, was Batman TAS officially part of the DCAU universe? it felt really out of place with the art style of Superman and the JL, and REALLY different from The New Batman Adventures, which actually felt a better fit with the other shows. To me both shows always stood apart.

A bit of an oldie, ReBoot was really good. Probably one of the first fully CG TV shows.

Ahh... the D&D cartoon... a great example of awesome potential ruined by the moral guardians. Remember, The Complainer Is Always Wrong (not a link to TVTropes, btw).

If you liked Superfriends, you'll LOVE this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mhbxlz_wrI
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #107 on: June 05, 2012, 03:26:38 pm »



I'd just like to forward this as the best part of my, or anyone else's childhood.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #108 on: June 05, 2012, 03:29:03 pm »

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A question aside, was Batman TAS officially part of the DCAU universe? it felt really out of place with the art style of Superman and the JL, and REALLY different from The New Batman Adventures, which actually felt a better fit with the other shows. To me both shows always stood apart.
Officially they're all in the same continuity. Except a few tiny things (like Penguin's hands), there's no inconsistencies, so the difference is largely in art style.

And New Batman Adventures sucked. Except when it didn't. Mad Love was great. Anything with Firefly or whatever that stupid pyromaniac villain's name was was terrible.


@pup named scooby doo

I've heard that one was decent, but never saw it myself.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #109 on: June 05, 2012, 03:52:31 pm »

In old scooby i hated that they ran away from unarmed guy, and i hated that shaggy and scooby were scared of everything and they were like 24/7 high. You know, they could beat the shit, 4 people and a dog could eaisly take down unarmed guy. At least in Mystery Inc sometimes they do have reason to run away, like knives.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #110 on: June 05, 2012, 03:57:53 pm »

In old scooby i hated that they ran away from unarmed guy, and i hated that shaggy and scooby were scared of everything and they were like 24/7 high. You know, they could beat the shit, 4 people and a dog could eaisly take down unarmed guy. At least in Mystery Inc sometimes they do have reason to run away, like knives.

Its a Psychopath... I'd think the normal reaction is to be scared and run away.

Also Scooby has yet to really show that he has any of the real dog traits that would be helpful. Even when he has bitten someone it had just been a bit painful.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #111 on: June 05, 2012, 06:36:52 pm »

Old Scooby never had any movies, to my knowledge. Whats the release date for the movie?
The Hex Girls movie had real magic.  I'm not sure how old or new it is but it's old enough that I remember watching it back when I had cartoon network.  So... who knows.
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« Reply #112 on: June 05, 2012, 06:41:10 pm »

Old Scooby never had any movies, to my knowledge. Whats the release date for the movie?
The Hex Girls movie had real magic.  I'm not sure how old or new it is but it's old enough that I remember watching it back when I had cartoon network.  So... who knows.

The rule of thumb is that the show it is always fake monsters (excluding 13 ghosts) but the movies are generally real or include a real monster.

There was only one scooby doo movie that actually had no monster, creature, or ghost.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #113 on: June 05, 2012, 07:37:48 pm »

I remember reading somewhere that Scooby Doo shows exist in completely separate continuities (so, old shows, new shows, and TV movies aren't sequels, prequels of each other). Not sure where this fits, but I think I once saw either a movie or an episode where there was some sort of weird dimension loop thingy where two Scooby Gangs from different cartoons met each other (complete with "modern" Fred making fun of "vintage" Fred's scarf).
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #114 on: June 05, 2012, 07:58:31 pm »

I remember reading somewhere that Scooby Doo shows exist in completely separate continuities (so, old shows, new shows, and TV movies aren't sequels, prequels of each other). Not sure where this fits, but I think I once saw either a movie or an episode where there was some sort of weird dimension loop thingy where two Scooby Gangs from different cartoons met each other (complete with "modern" Fred making fun of "vintage" Fred's scarf).

No what you are thinking of is the Scooby Doo movie where they are sent into the digital world where there are "Classical" versions of the characters.

However they arn't the original gang, they are a version created by rumors of the characters involved. Hense why Digital Scooby Doo is very brave.

The Live Action Scooby Doo movie was an actual movie in Whats New Scooby Doo and oddly enough is almost canonical.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #115 on: June 05, 2012, 08:01:35 pm »

Well, OK, but the continuity part is a separate argument from that glimpse of an episode/show I saw. Can't really argue more about that scene since I probably only say a fraction of a minute when I was zapping around.

Did the "real" characters turn into cartoons also? 'cause in the scene I saw both were cartoons.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #116 on: June 05, 2012, 08:07:16 pm »

Well, OK, but the continuity part is a separate argument from that glimpse of an episode/show I saw. Can't really argue more about that scene since I probably only say a fraction of a minute when I was zapping around.

Did the "real" characters turn into cartoons also? 'cause in the scene I saw both were cartoons.

No I was talking about a cartoon movie.

The Live Action movie was Canonical to the "Whats new Scooby Doo" show sorta. It was a actual movie in the "Whats new Scooby Doo movie" that depicted some of the true events (Daphne learning martial arts is canonical. Velma getting a boyfriend is not)

The Cartoon movie where the crew gets thrown in the digital world is canonical to the original "Scooby Doo where are you?" show and takes place long after the series.

Though even though the Cartoons (most of them) and movies take place in different continuities I should state that it is only half-true. They often imply that the same mysteries happened in all of them. (For example even in Mystery Incorperated they delt with the same fake ghosts)
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #117 on: June 05, 2012, 08:22:52 pm »



I'd just like to forward this as the best part of my, or anyone else's childhood.

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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. Batman > You
« Reply #118 on: June 05, 2012, 08:43:04 pm »

Also since movies are on the docket, Light Years. This movie really messed with my head as a kid. It defines for me the look of 80s western animation (even though it's French), and how, I dunno, realistic they felt in comparison to much of what's come after. In terms of that weird place you get watching animation intended for adults, anime doesn't even come close to the sensation I get watching 80s cartoons like Light Years.

I believe this is the same guy who did Fantastic Planet (aka La Planete Sauvage), which is trippy as hell and worth a watch (Eureka's Masters of Cinema line has it out on DVD and blu-ray now).
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Scooby Dooby Doo!
« Reply #119 on: June 05, 2012, 10:22:39 pm »

Oh that reminds me, everyone who hasn't should watch The Thief and the Cobbler. It's a Disney-esque animated film with really great animation and art, but had a very, very, troubled production. The version that went to theatres had a lot of unfinished scenes cut from it, the youtube version I linked to has partially finished scenes and mockups and such put in.
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