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[Pokon]

I wasn't really sure what to do about Clubbas/Spikes.  The Koopas already have a caravan per main season, and they aren't really meant to be trade-oriented.  I was considering putting them in as intelligent pets (kind of like the Yoshis are to Toads), or perhaps an underground civ.

Could have a pet version that comes in both Spike and Clubba forms, and have the underground civ basicly function like a function-swaped version of the Piantas. ( More powerful in the dark, gets sick in light, physicly powerful, and generaly a pain in the rear for most of the fort's life until you get some realy good metal's poping out of the forges.)

 

You can't use their body parts if you slaughter them though.  Unless I make the Toads sapient-eaters.  (Which would actually be kind of an interesting twist.  They are fungi, after all...)

Huh, would that cause some conflicts with ethics, tho? ( Actualy, one must wonder what primorial ooze the forests of Giant Mushrooms are growing on.)

[IndigoFenix]

You can't use their body parts if you slaughter them though.  Unless I make the Toads sapient-eaters.  (Which would actually be kind of an interesting twist.  They are fungi, after all...)

Huh, would that cause some conflicts with ethics, tho? ( Actualy, one must wonder what primorial ooze the forests of Giant Mushrooms are growing on.)

Not if everyone else is more-or-less okay with it too...

Dare to explore the possible darker implications of the Mushroom World.  The Toads are a morally-crippled servant race that needs to designate an arbitrary individual as their 'hero' so they have someone to believe in, the Koopas are reptiles ruled over by an uncaring and perpetually demanding demon king that builds massive fortresses out of its turtle-like instinct to construct a protective shell around itself, and the Shy Guys are anarchist reality-warping children from another universe who are effectively trying to turn the world into a set of building blocks to play with.  Why shouldn't everyone be cannibals as well?  The Yoshis certainly have no qualms about devouring their sapient enemies...

[Vgray]

I'm gonna guess half of the new plants need irrigation?

[Putnam]

No plants need irrigation, ever. It's impossible to require that.

[Vgray]

By irrigation I mean mud.

[Putnam]

They don't need mud, either. Soil is the only thing required.

[Vgray]

Huh. Then why can I only grow Sugarcane, Wheat, Fuzzbushes, and Chunkola fruit?

[Putnam]

Those all sound above-ground, to me. I'm not sure which ones are above or below ground. Try starting an underground farm (you don't need mud for that either, just soil BTW)

[Vgray]

Tried that early on. I have seeds for apples, bananas, peaches, grapes, watermelons melons, peppers, mango's, and turtle bushes. Not sure on that last one.

[kilakan]

It also depends on the climate of the local embark, for instance if you embarked in a cold climate, you'll never be able to grow banana's, on the other hand there is also things you can not grow in hot climates.

[Vgray]

It also depends on the climate of the local embark, for instance if you embarked in a cold climate, you'll never be able to grow banana's, on the other hand there is also things you can not grow in hot climates.

Ah. My embark is cold. I only realized that after I embarked. I bet even the summers are chilly for my poor toads.

[IndigoFenix]

Yeah, the new plants are much more biome-dependent than the vanilla ones (they are all above-ground, although there are a few such as mushrooms that will grow below ground too).  Besides being limited to tropical or temperate climates, there are some plants that will only grow in forests, others only on plains, etc.  I did that so that different races which live in different areas could bring different kinds of plants, increasing the incentive to engage in the trading of consumables.  Since you can also cook many of the new plants into more valuable forms, especially once you have cake mix available, it opens up a buy food/cook food/resell food trading game.

On an semi-related note... for some reason, Toads won't drink the frog drinks, and I don't think they drink milk either.  They will use them for cooking if it's the only thing available, but then they won't eat the cooked food.  What gives?  Is there something that makes creatures refuse to eat animal extracts specifically?

[Rakonas]

Do Max/Mid Mushrooms function as normal food? Is there any reason not to have your entire fortress live off of max mushrooms and as a side effect have really high recuperation or whatever they do?

[Vgray]

I forget what my embark is. I know that it's "Heavily Forested".

[IndigoFenix]

Do Max/Mid Mushrooms function as normal food? Is there any reason not to have your entire fortress live off of max mushrooms and as a side effect have really high recuperation or whatever they do?

They work as normal food.  The only real downside of most powerup foods is that they have a long growth period and limited available growing locations and seasons, so farming them as staple crops could be a challenge.  Also, some rare powerups (like 1Up Mushrooms) have no seeds and can't be farmed at all, only gathered or bought.