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[Octopod]

So I just made a new region and made two embarks, both of them contain two different types of trees that yield just gray "logs", which isn't in the stockpile wood list I believe, which would explain why the dwarves won't move them to it.

Can anyone confirm this is my region save's problem? The only thing I modified in it was removing aquifers through the text files (using instructions from the wiki.) Can I somehow save my region and return these trees to normal?

It's also worth noting that I didn't mod DF in any way except for changing the ASCII tileset.

[saintjebus]

What kind of trees are they?

[Octopod]

What kind of trees are they?

This embark has Mable and Kapok. My last one had Pine.

[Dutchling]

Did you copy paste anything while removing aquifers? Or saved your stone files twice? Duplicating RAWs makes a lot of fun stuff happen (Like Trolls wearing soap clothes invading your fort).

[Niyazov]

Sounds like a raw duplication error; they are the most common cause of material property frameshifts. Most likely cause is a slipup when removing aquifers, which IS a mod, as are tileset changes. Your save is hosed, and you are probably better off starting with a fresh DF install.

[Octopod]

Did you copy paste anything while removing aquifers? Or saved your stone files twice? Duplicating RAWs makes a lot of fun stuff happen (Like Trolls wearing soap clothes invading your fort).

I removed aquifers successfully a couple times before (Ctrl+H, replace all [AQUIFER] with (AQUIFER) on three txt files, can't name them off the top of my head). Would this problem happen if I didn't replace [AQUIFER] on all three txt files, just maybe one or two on accident?

Sounds like a raw duplication error; they are the most common cause of material property frameshifts. Your save is hosed, and you are probably better off starting with a fresh DF install.

Alright then, I guess. Is there a way to generate worlds without aquifers, and if so, could you point me in the right direction? (I don't know if PerfectWorld does this)

Most likely cause is a slipup when removing aquifers, which IS a mod, as are tileset changes.

Also yeah, I just wanted to rule out the possibility of it being a mod problem because I just took off one of those all-in-one mod packages that includes simplifying wood types.

[Dutchling]

If you did what you said you did there should be no problem.
But obviously there is a problem so you probably accidentally did something wrong. Removing the aquifers never caused trouble for me so just try it again (download the game again) and hope you do it right this time

[Octopod]

Alright, my new region doesn't have this problem. Thanks for the help.

[Niyazov]

Why does everyone hate aquifers?

[Octopod]

Why does everyone hate aquifers?

I've just started playing. I don't even know how channeling or the physics of this game work so I can't possibly get past any aquifers.

[weenog]

Why does everyone hate aquifers?

Unlimited water and drainage are only benefits if you plan on using 'em.  Unlimited hazardous terrain and job cancellation are pains in the ass no matter what.  And a first year that goes poorly can break a fortress, there are no buffer zones and little margin of error.

I don't hate the things, but I do consider 'em a nuisance a lot of the time.  I can see why they'd bother some people more than they do me, though.

I've just started playing. I don't even know how channeling or the physics of this game work so I can't possibly get past any aquifers.

Try embarking in a location that covers multiple biomes, one but not all of which contains an aquifer.  You should have a safe easygoing spot to dig early on, but you can go looking for the groundwater after you've got some safeguards in place.

[Dutchling]

Why does everyone hate aquifers?

I've just started playing. I don't even know how channeling or the physics of this game work so I can't possibly get past any aquifers.

I play this game for almost two years now and I never start a fort without modding out aquifers

[Nameless Archon]

Why does everyone hate aquifers?

I play this game for almost two years now and I never start a fort without modding out aquifers

This was me. However, my experience has now taught me that if you can circumvent the aquifer, it's a superior water source to streams, oceans, lakes and ponds. Infinite supply, clean water, infinite flow for power needs. It has all the advantages of the other water sources without the problems, PROVIDED you can get around it to get into the underground so it's not an obstruction to mining deeper.

Generally, to take advantage of an aquifer, I embark at a boundary condition, where one of my regions has an aquifer (say, F1) and one does not (say F2) and I can therefor bypass the aquifer until I'm ready to breach it and use it.