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Beginner's Mafia XXXIV: Nine-Life Ninja

The time: 1990.
The place: Some kid's house.
The location: The memory addresses of a
Ninja Gaiden-loaded NES.
You are the extra lives of Ryu Hayabusa, and it has rapidly dawned on you that this kid sucks. The nine of you have gathered together to discuss your mutual plight when you all have a terrible realization that the extra life counter only reads x7. You must find the two impostors before they can sabotage the game, or else it's GAME OVER.




Player List
  • borno Tiruin
  • Flying Dice Godfather
  • Chaos Armor Doctor
  • Deathsword Vanilla Town
  • blackmagechill Vanilla Town
  • Fiskav abculatter_02 Hapah
  • Theodolus Vanilla Town

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Introduction

Welcome to Beginner's Mafia XXXIV. As the title suggests, this game is for beginners. If you have no idea how to play or you have some experience but you're still not quite sure what to do, then this is the right place for you. If you sign up, your goal is onefold: Learn how to play the game of mafia. Since this is not an easy thing to do on your own and we wouldn't dream of forcing you to do it, you will be assisted by two 'inexperienced challenged' players, or ICs. The ICs are experienced players on the board who have signed up to help you learn. You can always trust that the advice they give is genuine, however, you can not always trust the IC, as they are players in the game and have the same likelihood of being scum as every other single player.

If this is your first time playing, keep in mind that games of forum mafia take several weeks, and can sometimes run longer than a month, and that you are expected to be able to play continuously through that time. If you can't anticipate being able to play for that long for whatever reason, then maybe the game of mafia isn't for you. But if it is, then welcome to the mafia subforum, and I hope you have a great time playing.



Gameplay and Concept

The game of mafia has a simple concept. A large group of players known as the town plays against a smaller group of players known as the mafia. In this setup, there are nine players, with seven town and two mafia.

Before the game begins, each players is given a role and an alignment by the moderator. There are two alignments in this setup: Town and Mafia. The town outnumber the mafia, but each individual member of the town does not know the alignment of any of the other members. The mafia know the alignment of everyone on their team and they can discuss the game privately in a special mafia chat. The mafia has access to a nightkill that they may use in the Night phase, while the town occasionally has roles with abilities that are used during the night.

Once everyone has a role, the game begins in the Day phase. During the Day phase, players may discuss the game and each player has a vote that they cast publicly to lynch a player. At the end of the day after some predetermined amount of time, the player with the most votes is lynched. Lynching does two things: it reveals a player's role and alignment, and it removes a player from the game. Once lynched, a player is no longer allowed to post in the thread.

Once the day ends, the game proceeds to Night. During the Night, discussion is prohibited. The mafia team picks a target to nightkill. If available, any town power roles use their actions as well. At the end of the night, the target the mafia chose to nightkill has their role and alignment revealed, and that player is removed from the game in a similar way to being lynched. Once the night ends, the game proceeds to another Day.

Both teams win by eliminating the other. However, due to the nature of the teams, they win very differently. The town win by finding and lynching the mafia, while the mafia win by avoiding being lynched and nightkilling.

Potential Roles

Vanilla Townie - A member of the town with no special abilities.
Mafioso - A member of the mafia with no special abilities.
Cop (Town) - A cop may choose to inspect a single player during the night and learn that player's alignment.
Doctor (Town) - A doctor may choose a single player to protect during the night, preventing that player from being nightkilled.
Roleblocker (Mafia) - A roleblocker may choose a single player to block, preventing that player from performing his action.
Godfather (Mafia) - A godfather appears town to Cop inspections.

The only role that receives results in this setup is the Cop. All other roles are not informed if they were successful or not.

There is no limit to the number of Vanilla Townies or Mafiosos the game may have, but all other roles have a maximum of one.

Spoiler: Role PMs (click to show/hide)

Notes about the ICs

The ICs are here solely to teach new players how to play, but remember, they are also players in the game. This means they have the same chance to be scum as any other player and it is entirely possible for one IC or even both ICs to be scum. Regardless of their alignment, they are obligated to provide you with genuine advice, so that even if you don't trust the IC, you can trust the advice they give. Some ICs will use a special 'IC voice' to alert players that they are delivering honest, unfiltered advice, while some don't.

The ICs have the special privilege of being able to talk while dead. This is so that they can continue to give advice even if they are killed during the course of the game.



Rules

  • Voting - Votes are cast in red. Other colors may be ignored. Jim Groovester, Vote Jim Groovester, Jim, Vote James Muffinpants are all acceptable ways to cast a vote if the target is clear enough.
    • If you want to remove your vote, you may put unvote in red text. You must explicitly state this.
  • Death - When you are dead, you are prohibited from posting in the thread. You may make a single 'bah' post after you die, however, it must not contain any game-related information.
  • PMs - PMs between players are prohibited. You may freely PM the moderator to ask game-related questions, however, what the moderator may reveal is limited.
    • Do not quote any direct correspondence with the moderator, including role PMs and rule-related queries.
  • Edits - Editing posts is prohibited. Do not edit your post for any reason, even if your post comes out as a trainwreck of formatting, spelling, punctuation, and/or grammar. The preview button exists; use it.
  • Replacements/Activity - If you find yourself unable to play, you may, and should, request a replacement. We may try to talk you out of it if it's for any other reason besides you not having enough time to play.
    • Prods may be requested for a player. If they have not posted in the thread within 24 hours, excluding weekends, they will be prodded.
    • If you stop playing my game altogether without notifying me, I will come looking for you.
    • Please be active. The greatest killer of beginner games is poor activity.
  • Day/Night Length - Days will last 72 hours, excluding weekends. Nights will last 24 hours, or until I get all night actions.
  • Extensions/Shortens - A player may vote for an extension to increase the length of the day. It requires >33% of the current number of players to request an extension for an extension to be granted. A player may also vote for a shorten. It requires >50% of the current number of players for a shorten to be granted. Extensions increase day length by 48 hours, while shortens will immediately end the day as soon as possible. There is no limit to the number of extensions that may be granted.
    • Votes for extension/shorten are done in boldface. Extend, Extension, Extend it up yo, Shorten it out y'all are acceptable ways to vote for an extension/shorten.
    • Extensions/shortens can be opposed by declaring opposition, and they count against the total number of votes for an extension/shorten. Extensions count as opposition to shortens and vice versa.
  • External Participation - While the game is ongoing, if you are not a player, an IC, or a mod, refrain from posting in the thread. I know this won't stop some of you.
  • Play to win! There is no hopeless situation, so don't ever give up. And remember, be bold! You learn nothing and you gain nothing by holding back.



Resources and Guides


Our own Bay12 Mafia tutorial
The Notable Games archive. Read a famous game from start to finish! Learn some Mafia history.
The Mafiascum wiki. Lots of theory, terminology, and game analysis.
An Interactive Flash tutorial by one of the Mafiascum.net people. Helpful visualization!








Frequently Asked Questions

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« Last Edit: July 25, 2012, 02:39:28 am by Jim Groovester »
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XXXIV: Nine-Life Ninja
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2012, 10:35:57 pm »

Some notes about the OP:

I feel guilty about chopping up and essentially plagiarizing most of LNCP's OP from way back when, but I think my version is slightly, ever so slightly, clearer, and that's important for BMs.

I want to get around to rewriting the guides and resources section, mostly for clarity and for comprehension, and because I think there's too much information there and that some of it teaches the wrong things to look for.

If you think I'm missing something or that I should get rid of something, let me know. Other tips and advice more than welcome.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XXXIV: Nine-Life Ninja
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2012, 10:55:51 pm »

Luckily I am a ninja. Therefore I cannot be scum in this game.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XXXIV: Nine-Life Ninja
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2012, 11:24:22 pm »

I cannot be in but I can watch!

Also, Jim, go ahead with that OP! The catalogue of BMs shows the numerous editions of guides and such, so I think a new, re-worded one would be alright here.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XXXIV: Nine-Life Ninja
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2012, 11:28:05 pm »

In. Just a warning, I will be without internet access from roughly ~Friday afternoon until ~Sunday midday this coming weekend. And yes, I'd agree that the new OP is a bit clearer.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XXXIV: Nine-Life Ninja
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2012, 11:31:10 pm »

Changing your avatar to match the game? That's dedication.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XXXIV: Nine-Life Ninja
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2012, 11:32:55 pm »

I think it looks fine Jim. Definitely clearer.

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Thought I might try my hand at this once again now that I actually understand Mafia.

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Re: Beginner's Mafia XXXIV: Nine-Life Ninja
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2012, 07:45:04 am »

Can I get a spoil spec on this?
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XXXIV: Nine-Life Ninja
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2012, 10:00:40 am »

Welcome to Beginner's Mafia XXXIV. As the title suggests, this game is for beginners. If you have no idea how to play or you have some experience but you're still not quite sure what to do, then this is the right place for you. If you sign up, your goal is onefold: Learn how to play the game of mafia. Since this is not an easy thing to do on your own and we wouldn't dream of forcing you to do it, you will be assisted by two 'inexperienced challenged' players, or ICs. The ICs are experienced players on the board who have signed up to help you learn. You can always trust that the advice they give is genuine, however, you can not always trust the IC, as they are players in the game and have the same likelihood of being scum as every other single player.
I know it's clarified later, but this sentence just stood out to me as being awkward.  It feels like it's saying, at first glance, "always trust the ICs, but not always".  I feel like it could be a little clearer to avoid a double-take.  Although, I can't think of a better way to phrase it right now.

Unfortunately, my annual summer pilgrimages to various vacation spots are coming up very soonish, so I can't IC for this game.  But I certainly will be back to IC in the future. 

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Re: Beginner's Mafia XXXIV: Nine-Life Ninja
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2012, 10:39:21 am »

I feel guilty about chopping up and essentially plagiarizing most of LNCP's OP from way back when, but I think my version is slightly, ever so slightly, clearer, and that's important for BMs.

The OP has repeatedly been chopped, ripped, and edited by a multitude of different people- I say go for it.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XXXIV: Nine-Life Ninja
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2012, 11:54:08 am »

Changing your avatar to match the game? That's dedication.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XXXIV: Nine-Life Ninja
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2012, 02:58:15 pm »

Can I get a spoil spec on this?

No.

It cuts into the replacement pool. (Everybody is a member of the replacement pool.)

I know it's clarified later, but this sentence just stood out to me as being awkward.  It feels like it's saying, at first glance, "always trust the ICs, but not always".  I feel like it could be a little clearer to avoid a double-take.  Although, I can't think of a better way to phrase it right now.

I see what you're saying. I'll work on it and figure something out at some point.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XXXIV: Nine-Life Ninja
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2012, 04:20:19 pm »

Welcome to Beginner's Mafia XXXIV. As the title suggests, this game is for beginners. If you have no idea how to play or you have some experience but you're still not quite sure what to do, then this is the right place for you. If you sign up, your goal is onefold: Learn how to play the game of mafia. Since this is not an easy thing to do on your own and we wouldn't dream of forcing you to do it, you will be assisted by two 'inexperienced challenged' players, or ICs. The ICs are experienced players on the board who have signed up to help you learn. You can always trust that the advice they give is genuine, however, you can not always trust the IC, as they are players in the game and have the same likelihood of being scum as every other single player.
I know it's clarified later, but this sentence just stood out to me as being awkward.  It feels like it's saying, at first glance, "always trust the ICs, but not always".  I feel like it could be a little clearer to avoid a double-take.  Although, I can't think of a better way to phrase it right now.
Maybe something like:

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You can always trust direct IC advice to be genuine; they will never lie to you about aspects of mafia or methods of playing better simply to win. There is a chance they will be scum, however, in which case they will of course lie about more specific details where advantageous.

As an example, an IC would never say "Rolefishing isn't a scumtell" simply to cover their rolefishing. They might very well say "I wasn't rolefishing, I was just curious about his response" to cover their rolefishing, however.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XXXIV: Nine-Life Ninja
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2012, 01:15:18 am »

Irony, that's probably better. :P

Since I suck at scumhunting, I might go in as a newbie if you need one more :D
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XXXIV: Nine-Life Ninja
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2012, 09:50:38 am »

I'd play; but I think I'd just be a drag on the game. That's what happened in the last one, I bit off more than I could chew and my play suffered (a lot, I might add) as a result. I think I can handle two games at once, and I'd rather play two games well than three or four poorly.

In any event, I'll jump in if I find the slack!
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