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[Draignean]

Eheheh...

Mutant Race. In which people may actually do catgirls.

Don't count on it. Cinder Spires, canonically, has both catgirls and catbois. I've stated, multiple times that I'm totally cool with them being 'discovered' as part of some other design or action. Still nothing.

In other news...

That awkward moment when you have a great idea for how to phase out unnecessary rolling, and then realize that half the class bonuses you were so proud of a moment ago were tied up in all that unnecessary rolling.

BLARG.

BLARGH.

EUBLEUUGHH.

Oh well.

The system has been scratching my complexity itch, and I've managed to mostly keep it from being unnecessarily arcane. Which is always a problem for me, and manifested most egregiously in this round when I tried to set up it up so that damage reduction was calculated by 1/LOG₁₀(10+Armor_Rating/10). Which, admittedly, did a great job of giving armor the efficacy curve I wanted, but was much better served by putting the actually DR directly on the equipment.

Resulting, probably final, edition of an item card.

Statuary Greatsword: L: 4 | H:6 | DR: 25% | Dam: 120
Moveset: Greatsword | 2 hands
Requirements and Scaling:
--->POT: E | PRE: - | WIL: E | VIG: 3/C | AGI: -
Grants Ability: Petrify
--->Petrify: 1 Will, 1 Vigor | 3 Frame Cost | 15 Cooldown | Choose a move from the weapon's light attack moveset and use that to launch this ability. If a target gets hit with a graze, it’s petrified for 5 frames starting immediately, if it’s hit with a full impact, it’s petrified for 10 frames starting immediately. This attack deals no damage.

See, totally simple and straightforward.

Totally.

[RoseHeart]

How could I possibly make this more attractive to players?

Hey I'm putting this here as to avoid any kind of discussion derailing your thread. Basically I would suggest just totally pulling out all those massive walls of text and not deleting them just putting them on your computer for you to look at. Just literally have the same game but just a very minimal introduction description and decision to get the ball rolling.

[x2yzh9]

How could I possibly make this more attractive to players?

Hey I'm putting this here as to avoid any kind of discussion derailing your thread. Basically I would suggest just totally pulling out all those massive walls of text and not deleting them just putting them on your computer for you to look at. Just literally have the same game but just a very minimal introduction description and decision to get the ball rolling.

I took your advice! Hopefully it has a good effect.

[Draignean]

You know, even though I waffle over whether or not I'm going to run it. I'm still happy that the system is nearing completion. Bludgeoned attributes until they're where I like them, though I may boost the number of starting attribute points available- otherwise heavy armors might be a bit of difficult proposition at start.

Still writing up the play tutorial, but I felt the need to show the newest iteration of the how-much-of-dark-souls-face-can-I-steal-game's* character sheet.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Name: Fred
HP: 200/200
Hope: 0/15
Desperation: 0/1
Essence: 0
Starting Class: Lancer

+Attributes+
Potency: 6/6 (3+2)
Precision: 1/1
Vigor: 2/2 (1+1)
Will: 3/3 (2+1)
Agility: 2/2 (2)

+Equipment+
Hand 1: Dragonknight Greatsword | L:3 | H:4 | DR: 25% | Dam: 90+24
Hand 2:  Battered Kite Shield | L:1 | DR: 60% | Dam: 10+0
Armor: Lost Squire’s Armor | DR: 10%
Charm 1: Witch’s Moon Charm
Charm 2: Crest of the Leper’s Legion
Inventory: Empty

+Modifiers and Abilities+
Modifiers
All damage scaling is automatically improved by 1 rank
Can wield a shield when using a two-handed weapon

Abilities
Ignition: 2 Potency | 5 Frame Cost | 15 Cooldown |  Choose any frame of Ignition to deal light attack damage in radius one. Next round, all attacks inflict a stacking 2 rounds of burning damage.

Withstand the Barrage: 2 Will | 1 Frame cost | 10 Cooldown | Make a standard block action. For this round, your block will be counted against every attack instead of the first to hit.

Moment of Valor:  2 Pot, 1 Vig | 1 Frame Cost | 25 Cooldown | Reduce the frame costs for all attacks this round by 3, down to 1.

Witch’s Moon: 1 + X Agility to Activate, 0 Frame Cost, 0 cooldown | Mark any position on the map within radius 1. Next round, enemies will react as though you occupied that position.
--->Moon Charm: The X part of the cost is the remainder of the current turn counter divided by 4. 1 on Turn 1, 2 on turn 2, 3 on turn 3, 0 on turn 4, and so forth.

Endure: 1 Will, 1 Frame Cost, 15 cooldown | Counts as a block action, with bonus %DR based your lost life percentage. Provides no DR bonus at full health, but scales up to 99% as you lose life. Cannot raise the DR of a block beyond 100%.

*I imagine that I'll find a better name at some point. Hopefully.

[IronyOwl]

Spreadsheet Souls? Calcborne? Dark Frame?

[Draignean]

Spreadsheet Souls? Calcborne? Dark Frame?

Har, har.

 You're on an expedition away from the sane and sunlit world. The setting: a weird castle where the walls are stained with darkness. And there's also some darkness hovering around the chandelier. Your grandfather's darksteel key can't get you into the oddly dark castle tower, because someone smeared darkness on the lock. But you can open... the Dark Frame. Except you can't, because it's a frame, not a door, and it's already open.*

*Original Credit

Edit: Shit, didn't actually mean to post this, I had real questions and not just plagiarized cartoon comedy. Damnit.

Anyway, what do random people think is best as far as how many items players get to pick at character creation? How many options is too many options?

[Supernerd]

The more character creation options there are, the better in my opinion. I won't play a complicated game unless the character creation has a lot of flexibility.

[IronyOwl]

Anyway, what do random people think is best as far as how many items players get to pick at character creation? How many options is too many options?

I feel like 2-3 major decisions is probably the best, else it starts getting fiddly or building into larger decisions anyway ("I'll take life regen for all 16 choices," "these three items give me a good crit healer build, these three would let me tank really well but take up a slot I need for my mobility shenanigans").

[Draignean]

Duly noted.

Now, one more question.

IO is familiar with the system of calcdarksoulframe, where each player specifies a sequence of actions to make, and then each piece (frame) of that sequence is evaluated simultaneously for all players and monsters. So actions look somewhat like,

Move North -> Move East -> Cast fireball at (6,2) -> Shenanigans -> Move South

So the game is designed to be about making successful anticipations of the enemy in order to kill without ever presenting a target. However, with four people and friendly fire, it's also about coordinating with your team members.

That in mind, I was thinking of making it against the rules to explicitly post your action sequence in the thread, and to instead PM it to me, so that the communication of what each player is doing has to be hammered out between the characters. Thus it's less of a mind-reading fest where every player decodes every other player's action string, and more each player PMing me the action string and then trying (or not) to communicate to the others what they're trying to accomplish.

How cruel is this?

Edit Note, particularly when you have items that need good coordination to actually pull off well, such as...

Spoiler: Deathball (click to show/hide)

Deathball U: 2/2
Requirements
POT: 1 | PRE: 1 | WIL: - | VIG: - | AGI: -
Grants Ability: Throw Deathball
   Throw Deathball:  No Cost | 0 Frame Cost, 5 cooldown | Make a linear attack with 10 damage and with length 2. If the ball is hit at the endpoint by a melee attack, it adds the damage of that attack to its own and is propelled X+2 spaces, where x is the spaces it moved before the hit. This process may be repeated until the ball reaches 1000 damage, at which point it disintegrates.
Description: A pearly marble, enchanted to store and multiply kinetic energy. When thrown and struck, it glows with opaline light and has a frightening ability to slam through solid objects. Like people.

[IronyOwl]

How cruel is this?

I think this is very cruel to the GM, as poking through your inbox for actions sounds obnoxious.

As for the players... I think this'll probably end up fairly binary: Either the players communicate effectively with each other and there's no real difference, or they'll just do their own thing and things will go poorly.

Spoiler: Deathball (click to show/hide)

Deathball U: 2/2
Requirements
POT: 1 | PRE: 1 | WIL: - | VIG: - | AGI: -
Grants Ability: Throw Deathball
   Throw Deathball:  No Cost | 0 Frame Cost, 5 cooldown | Make a linear attack with 10 damage and with length 2. If the ball is hit at the endpoint by a melee attack, it adds the damage of that attack to its own and is propelled X+2 spaces, where x is the spaces it moved before the hit. This process may be repeated until the ball reaches 1000 damage, at which point it disintegrates.
Description: A pearly marble, enchanted to store and multiply kinetic energy. When thrown and struck, it glows with opaline light and has a frightening ability to slam through solid objects. Like people.

This is monstrously evil, but will probably make everyone very interested in arranging the perfect spirit bomb pinball combo.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Unrelated to anything, I miss Small Mercies.

[Draignean]

Well, if people want to take a look, here's the rough, needs pizazz, definitely not even it's final form version of das rules.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Unrelated to anything, I miss Small Mercies.

You and me both. I periodically long to start that back up again. I still wonder why I left it there, since you're basically just waiting on the King of Strengar and the Crow to get back + the shuttle, and then everyone could meet back for booze.

Maybe I should update that. No one would expect that move. Give the deepstate FBI agents monitoring my lack of fillings a real turn.

[Haspen]

* Haspen raises paw.

Why the heck are all those various unrelated suggestion games using 'spam' prefix? Most of them have more than one character design option or don't even use 'one of few' choice options, and updates are both lengthy and come about rarely - basically antithesis of spam progression!

This is siphoning away muh fame and fabulousness! Dis is outrage! V:<

[TamerVirus]

Imitation is the highest form of flattery?

I guess SPAM titles have become a shorthand for 'suggestion game'

[Draignean]

'Grats, Haspen baby, you're a brand name now.

[heydude6]

I hate it honestly. I feel like FG and Rp has become saturated with spam and arms race games. What happened to the original creations people used to make?