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[Tomcost]

I'm just going to ask: would anyone be interested in a forum game based around the Warcraft universe?

I gusss it depends on how it's pulled off.

It could be a kind of D&D, but with actual mana and special ability resources, and less useless numbers on other stuff. I actually could create a sort of manual for it, but I don't know if I would have enough players.

[kj1225]

It sounds interesting at least.

[IronyOwl]

As a general rule, I'd say avoid it if you're not willing to do it without prior support. A game should ideally be something you make because you want to, not a gimmick you might be willing to start working on to adapt into a game if there's sufficient interest voiced in said gimmick.

In somewhat related news, a wise man once told me to pour absolutely everything you like into a game you're making, so as to ensure that it's something you like. Instead of asking if anyone's interested in X, you might try that.

[Tomcost]

As a general rule, I'd say avoid it if you're not willing to do it without prior support. A game should ideally be something you make because you want to, not a gimmick you might be willing to start working on to adapt into a game if there's sufficient interest voiced in said gimmick.

In somewhat related news, a wise man once told me to pour absolutely everything you like into a game you're making, so as to ensure that it's something you like. Instead of asking if anyone's interested in X, you might try that.

Well, thanks for the advice. I actually have started the manual and decided on general mechanics (I still have to put values to most of the stuff), and I have the introduction for the first campaign (as well as other 4 scenarios that are more likely going to be smaller RTDs). The thing is, I don't want to beign running the game and then find that I don't have enough players, or that a need a replacement and I can't find one.



Now that I think about it. What would you do to keep forumites interested in a game? Because I thought about running smaller RTDs associated with the main game.

[IronyOwl]

Now that I think about it. What would you do to keep forumites interested in a game? Because I thought about running smaller RTDs associated with the main game.

Generally just making sure there's things for them to do and decide upon. Interest is kind of hard to generalize otherwise, since it's more or less their desire and ability to play.

[Dermonster]

Arg... I really don't want to update my game because I don't really remember what's going on, but I really wanted to get to the big reveal.
Well, SWURB is probably dead.

Here's the major things I was going to do, that I never got the chance to do:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Actual spoilers! So using transparent text as well.
1) Derm was the Bard of Doom.
2) Players were going to enter the medium in reverse order; they would all be brought in through the medium EXCEPT the TWO that Derm were going to send in.
3) Derm was going to have a small puzzle where he needed to use two different kinds of cruxite to create two cruxite artifacts that fit together to enter.
4) Two time players, two space players. Two pages, one of each duplicated element. The remaining time player was a rogue, the remaining space player was a thief.
5) one player's planet would not have fit the LO_A_ scheme; guess who's? I kind of made the game with Derm at it's center. His planet's acronym would have been ROYAL. (Realm of Yesterday and Legend).
6) The seven denziens consisted of 3 canon denziens (Hephastus, Echidna, Yalbadaoth), and 4 that I made up (Aphrodites, Dain, Thor, Norn).
7) OF COURSE I was going to include a first guardian; I had already introduced it, as a minotaur. But I was actually going to include 6 of them! One for everyone except Derm.

Oh, I never saw this.

Spoiler: Well this is a thing... (click to show/hide)

Well that's completely not what I was going for. I think. It's been a while. I was hoping for a time dealie. Anyway, I was going to do some sort of time fuckery involving prototyping a fusion of a prospitian and a dersite resident, crash an asteroide into derse with the help of the 'Midnight crew', steal the black queens ring, Ascend to godhood, fuse with my sprite, wear the queens ring for prototyping powers + RED MILES and then go murderkill both other kings and the prospit queen for 2X ring and 2x scepter power, and then just casually stroll through things.

Also, you know, massive semi-justified sorta-meta-gaming that I tried to force through using in game actions and text, again without ever actually explaining to the GM what I was trying to do.

It's a bad habit of mine, I guess. I build up an mental plot of events that I would like to happen, get excited at 'THE BIG REVEAL', and then never explain anything to anyone when I try to set it in motion, even the GM. This tends to get people to interfere and then things just get muddled and the game gets ruined when I try to fix it, again never expaining anything.

[kj1225]

Arg... I really don't want to update my game because I don't really remember what's going on, but I really wanted to get to the big reveal.
Well, SWURB is probably dead.

Here's the major things I was going to do, that I never got the chance to do:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Actual spoilers! So using transparent text as well.
1) Derm was the Bard of Doom.
2) Players were going to enter the medium in reverse order; they would all be brought in through the medium EXCEPT the TWO that Derm were going to send in.
3) Derm was going to have a small puzzle where he needed to use two different kinds of cruxite to create two cruxite artifacts that fit together to enter.
4) Two time players, two space players. Two pages, one of each duplicated element. The remaining time player was a rogue, the remaining space player was a thief.
5) one player's planet would not have fit the LO_A_ scheme; guess who's? I kind of made the game with Derm at it's center. His planet's acronym would have been ROYAL. (Realm of Yesterday and Legend).
6) The seven denziens consisted of 3 canon denziens (Hephastus, Echidna, Yalbadaoth), and 4 that I made up (Aphrodites, Dain, Thor, Norn).
7) OF COURSE I was going to include a first guardian; I had already introduced it, as a minotaur. But I was actually going to include 6 of them! One for everyone except Derm.

Oh, I never saw this.

Spoiler: Well this is a thing... (click to show/hide)

Well that's completely not what I was going for. I think. It's been a while. I was hoping for a time dealie. Anyway, I was going to do some sort of time fuckery involving prototyping a fusion of a prospitian and a dersite resident, crash an asteroide into derse with the help of the 'Midnight crew', steal the black queens ring, Ascend to godhood, fuse with my sprite, wear the queens ring for prototyping powers + RED MILES and then go murderkill both other kings and the prospit queen for 2X ring and 2x scepter power, and then just casually stroll through things.

Oh well. When I try to plan these things out I get so excited at the 'Big Reveal' value that I never actually run anything by anyone else.

Also, you know, massive semi-justified sorta-meta-gaming that I tried to force through using in game actions and text, again without ever actually explaining to the GM what I was trying to do.

Again, doomed timeline.

[flabort]

I had an idea for a strategy game in which players choose a universe and create an army, then battle each other. I porbably would not be able to GM it, but if anyone wants to, PM me and I will give you a more detailed rule set.

Hmmmm....
Hmmmmm....
Hmmmmmmmmmm.....
I really want to work on rules for an army building system that allows you to pull from whichever series you want.
I'd like to see what your rules set looks like first, but I don't want to intentionally plagiarize, either.
Hmmm....
What to do, what to do...
To PM, or not to PM...............

[flabort]

Oh, yeah. Reply to Derm.

Spoiler: Well this is a thing... (click to show/hide)

Well that's completely not what I was going for. I think. It's been a while. I was hoping for a time dealie. Anyway, I was going to do some sort of time fuckery involving prototyping a fusion of a prospitian and a dersite resident, crash an asteroide into derse with the help of the 'Midnight crew', steal the black queens ring, Ascend to godhood, fuse with my sprite, wear the queens ring for prototyping powers + RED MILES and then go murderkill both other kings and the prospit queen for 2X ring and 2x scepter power, and then just casually stroll through things.

Spoiler: What I was sort of going for (click to show/hide)

 More spoilers, more transparent text.
There's a reason your Time players were a Page and a Rogue, too.
Remember what Rogues do? They take from X and give to Y, where Y is the other players.
And Pages? Infinite Potential. Infinite time... to take.
Froggy Ninja and Arcvasti were going to become a team of infinite time generation, sending back the other players into stable time loops.
Meanwhile, Elephant Parade and NAV were going to be the space-counterpart, but with a Thief instead of a Rogue; they were going to create basically wormholes through space, creating quick shortcuts even First Guardians would envy.
Jack A T, The Seer of Life was going to be the actual player to do the frogs thing; while the equipment would have been on NAV's world, NAV would be too occupied by other things to operate it; esp. the Black King.
Tiruin was the Knight of Heart. Her planet, LOGAH, was the Land of Glucose and Honors. Her knightly role in helping with the Frogs thing was going to be constantly delayed in the alpha timeline; several doomed Tiruins sent back by doomed Froggy Ninja/Arcvasti counterparts in the doomed timelines were going to fill that role, while she herself was going to ascend to virtually the only position that could feasibly counter Derm.

Derm, who I already said was going to be the Bard of Doom, was going to be the one to clone everyone and their counterparts via Ectobiology. He wasn't going to be able to clone himself, though, as that computer would have been completely absent; six computers, three mixing containers, 1 baby per computer and 2 babies per container for 12 babies. To clone himself, Derm was going to have to actually alchemize another computer; A freak accident with the computer would cause him to not give himself a proper sendoff, and he wouldn't see his counterpart.
His ultimate goal was to break the game, and the result would have been the universe "giving birth" to "twins". Both of which would be incredibly corrupted by whatever monstrosities Derm had spawned by this point in the game.
Also, almost everything that he met was going to die rather fast; his "doom aura" would be like a field of "doomed timeline", where everything that leaves it reenters the alpha timeline and is doomed. He himself would be considered part of the alpha timeline, though.


So, planet names. Guess which went to who, if I hadn't revealed it already.
Land of Glucose and Honors [Revealed:Tiruin]
Land of Forests and Media
Land of Libraries and Flux
Land of Herds and Towers
Land of Portals and Frogs [Revealed:NAV]
Land of Fairies and Woodwinds
Realm of Yesterday and Legend [Revealed:Derm]

Again, doomed timeline.

Aura

[Dermonster]

Well that sounds awesome.

[Tawa]

So, would anybody here be interested in a one-shot Tomb of Horrors expy?

[Nerjin]

Expy?

[Tawa]

Clone.

[Kadzar]

We already did that back in...shit, that was 2012? I thought it was just last year.

But, yeah, it was exciting at first, but eventually it just became a matter of us throwing characters at the thing and brute forcing the puzzles. A lot of that may have been due to the way the DM ran the thing, but it's hard to get invested in a character grinder long-term, which is why the ToH is only meant for one-shots.

The thing I did like about that game, though, was the fact that we could come up with custom classes. Sure, there were technically just three classes, but we could fluff them any way we wanted, and I'm still rather fond of the Kadzar family battlechefs and their adopted Warforged son. And I had a lot of fun playing a tiny mouse shaman, communicating exclusively through gestures and riding on top of other character's heads. It would be nice to play in another Bring-Your-Own-Class/Race game like that again.

[USEC_OFFICER]

Hey, I remember that! _{Probably because I DM'd it.} Personally, I think the reasons that the game stopped when it did was because I was getting burned out and stopped updating for a couple weeks, we had reached a boring stretch of the dungeon, and awesome people like Solifuge who made all of the sprites stopped posting. So we ended up with a perfect storm of apathy that caused people to stop posting and the thread died. Or something like that. Though... I do think that some people were annoyed when their characters died and that caused them to stop posting. But I'd always been upfront that everybody would die horribly, and that you could easily come back with a new character and claim all of your old junk, so death was more of a slap on the wrist than anything.

If I were to GM a game like that again, I'd probably tweak the classes a bit so that Fighters were more useful, and make a custom dungeon expressly for the game. The hordes of PCs running through the dungeon weren't used to their fullest extent, and puzzles/traps that required simultaneous action in different parts of the dungeon would have been interesting. Plus having a custom dungeon would make the 'haha, screw you!' parts less common, but replace them with more devious traps that don't instantly screw over players and give them a faint chance of hope.

tl;dr version: I had a lot of fun DMing that game, and if I could make my own dungeons I'd do so for a similar game.