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[Furtuka]

You have gotten my attention. Now elaborate it please?

[Parsely]

Making a thread right now.

[TCM]

Hey guys, I had an idea for a Free-base Arena Fighter WWE-Style Game based off of "Def Jam: Fight for NY".

Does anyone know a good system for Arena Fighting, Wrestling, Damage Calculations, and K.O. Rules? So far, I'm looking at expanding upon ExKirby's combat rules in his Bay Wrestling Federation RTD.

Spoiler: Combat (click to show/hide)

Combat in this game is mostly freeform-as long as you could logically do it, I'll roll for it. More spectacular attacks will do more damage, obviously, but they'll have bigger concequences when they go wrong. So, for example, smacking your opponent in the face might only do one or two damage, but if you fail, you won't get hurt yourself-but if you tried to do the 1080 double backflip splash from a ladder, it might hurt your opponent a LOT, but if it goes wrong, it will go wrong big time. Don't let it go wrong. Your damage is represented by Fatigue-the more damage you take, the more Fatigue you get. Fatigue is important because it's how you pin your opponent, and make them tap out if need be.

To pin your opponent, you need to first ground them, then declare your intent to pin. I'll then roll 3 100-sided dice. If any of them result in 100, or any number higher than the target's Fatigue, the target kicks out and the pin fails. If all three go under, then it's one-two-thee-ring bell-you win.

I don't plan to use this exact method, but I like it as a starting point for the combat fundamentals of the game. I want to expand further, like how I would handle K.O.'s and Submissions, as I am promoting the usage of differing fighting styles for each character.

[Nerjin]

K.O's could be done if, when the opponent is below a certain fatigue, the player does their "Signature Move" or one of their "Power Moves" which have low negatives if they fail but can only be used once.

I don't really know what a submission is though so... yeah.

I would think that "Favor" should be a stat of some importance. It basically represents the audiences "Favor" for the fighters. Maybe a high favor could result in some fatigue being gained back?

[Remuthra]

Hey guys, I had an idea for a Free-base Arena Fighter WWE-Style Game based off of "Def Jam: Fight for NY".

Does anyone know a good system for Arena Fighting, Wrestling, Damage Calculations, and K.O. Rules? So far, I'm looking at expanding upon ExKirby's combat rules in his Bay Wrestling Federation RTD.

Spoiler: Combat (click to show/hide)

Combat in this game is mostly freeform-as long as you could logically do it, I'll roll for it. More spectacular attacks will do more damage, obviously, but they'll have bigger concequences when they go wrong. So, for example, smacking your opponent in the face might only do one or two damage, but if you fail, you won't get hurt yourself-but if you tried to do the 1080 double backflip splash from a ladder, it might hurt your opponent a LOT, but if it goes wrong, it will go wrong big time. Don't let it go wrong. Your damage is represented by Fatigue-the more damage you take, the more Fatigue you get. Fatigue is important because it's how you pin your opponent, and make them tap out if need be.

To pin your opponent, you need to first ground them, then declare your intent to pin. I'll then roll 3 100-sided dice. If any of them result in 100, or any number higher than the target's Fatigue, the target kicks out and the pin fails. If all three go under, then it's one-two-thee-ring bell-you win.

I don't plan to use this exact method, but I like it as a starting point for the combat fundamentals of the game. I want to expand further, like how I would handle K.O.'s and Submissions, as I am promoting the usage of differing fighting styles for each character.

Real Life. Use formulas from physics to calculate things.

It is quite literally the perfect system.

[TCM]

K.O's could be done if, when the opponent is below a certain fatigue, the player does their "Signature Move" or one of their "Power Moves" which have low negatives if they fail but can only be used once.

I don't really know what a submission is though so... yeah.

I would think that "Favor" should be a stat of some importance. It basically represents the audiences "Favor" for the fighters. Maybe a high favor could result in some fatigue being gained back?

I was thinking something similar with the Finisher-Based K.O., the only issue being if they miss in the way you're saying, then they can't use it again. This is why I also have pondered the use of "Environmental Finishers" from Def Jam, as slamming someone's head into a concrete wall or an amplifier should be enough to knock them out cold.

Submissions refer to holds on a certain section of the body, such as an arm, leg, or neck, that cause pain and massive discomfort to whomever they are applied. The fighter under the submission must either get out of it, or forfeit the match. This is the system used in real life sport wrestling.

There will be a Reputation factor for the relationship with a fighter to their audience, though I don't see how it would result in them getting healed. I'm not a big fan of healing in the first place, I think the best matches are when the last beaten fighters struggle at each other in a scenario where one hit could end everything.

Real Life. Use formulas from physics to calculate things.

It is quite literally the perfect system.

I feel like that would detract from the game's Def Jam and WWE Wrestling, where the most impractical and inefficient moves were also the most spectacular and devastating. 

[Kadzar]

I think Remuthra is trolling you. That is the only reason I can think of that a sane person would make such a suggestion.

Anyway, couldn't you also have some sort of pain meter or something? So certain moves could be more painful than they are "fatiguing", and once you reach a fighter's pain threshold they give in. And perhaps it can have certain effects on people before that. Though I'm thinking maybe the pain meter would have to go down somewhat in absence of ongoing stimuli, so I don't know how well that would work out.

[Remuthra]

Nope, I actually tried to make a game once using that system. The players defaulted, though.

[TCM]

Anyway, couldn't you also have some sort of pain meter or something? So certain moves could be more painful than they are "fatiguing", and once you reach a fighter's pain threshold they give in. And perhaps it can have certain effects on people before that. Though I'm thinking maybe the pain meter would have to go down somewhat in absence of ongoing stimuli, so I don't know how well that would work out.

Pain would fit more along the lines of Wrestling and Submissions. I've been trying to find a way to branch together "General" Damage with "Submission" Damage in the end, as someone whose been subject to several attacks would be easier to submit.

This is what I've come up with so far, (Note that I'm using Damage and Fatigue interchangeably, I'm still deciding on which term to use):

D12 -(Fatigue/10) = Submission #. If D6 > Submission #, submissive fighter surrenders.

This is what I've now developed for K.O.s:

Finishers are unique to each fighter, and have a larger Damage Range, meaning that they cause much more damage than regular attacks, but also inflict more-self damage if missed.

Knockout Conditions: 100 - Total Damage Received < Damage of Successful Finisher

Both these systems are subject to critique and change.

[10ebbor10]

So I've been playing Evil Genius again, and it does make excellent material for a forum game. Terenos already made 2 excellent games based on it , but really, would be interesting to see a third.

Though If I were to run one, it'd most likely be a suggestion game to deal with complexity.

[Nerjin]

*Hint Hint*

[Fniff]

I thought of something fun.

What if you had a roleplay that had two threads: one played like an RTD, very dry (Terry attacks the soldier. Terry kills him.). However, there was another thread where it played like a freeform roleplay, except it's influenced by the RTD thread. You can write all you like about what happened, influenced by your character's style (If Terry's more the type to run away and be cowardly, Terry's player could write that Terry ran away from the soldier, hid, then bashed his head in from behind while the soldier was still looking around) but it has to follow what was said in the RTD: if it says the soldier was killed by Terry, Terry killed the soldier and that's that.

[Digital Hellhound]

I can see the heartrending tragedy played through the soldier's death throes, recounting his dark past, overcoming his problems, and becoming a better person. He founds a family, but soon has to turn to less legal paths to support them. His past catches up to him, but he's working towards redeeming himself one last time... and then the hero comes along and kills him without a moment's thought. As he lies in a puddle of his own blood, just holding onto his love for his wife... and another protagonist comes along and chops him up so they can use his bodyparts for a sculpture he forgets about immediately.

Yeah, sounds like a nice idea. Poor unnamed mook #67.

[Fniff]

Alas, he died too soon. Only one more day until retirement.

[gman8181]

I can see the heartrending tragedy played through the soldier's death throes, recounting his dark past, overcoming his problems, and becoming a better person. He founds a family, but soon has to turn to less legal paths to support them. His past catches up to him, but he's working towards redeeming himself one last time... and then the hero comes along and kills him without a moment's thought. As he lies in a puddle of his own blood, just holding onto his love for his wife... and another protagonist comes along and chops him up so they can use his bodyparts for a sculpture he forgets about immediately.

Yeah, sounds like a nice idea. Poor unnamed mook #67.

Vaguely reminds me of the plot from Red Dead Redemption.